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My parents' friend , Daniel Levitin, created a page for himself. Why cant i?

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[edit] Neosovinism

I don't like that you did what you did in time allocated. It was not so nice of you - I think. Could you give the reasons behind this nice idea of yours? BTW I'm very new to the concept of Wikipedia and would have been my first (and maybe my last) article. I don't understand the way this work should be done? Is there some reasons why a more let say freer "chaos and order" can't be used. I think the rules are nice but to create something people need chaos as rules are need among the society to keep it in place. I do wish a prompt answer at the Neosovinism articel ASAP.

Best regards, Negotiator83 from Finland (MSc. Eng. IEM and undergrad at a non-Eng. University with major in psychology and a minor in law & economics)

[edit] Fmt headings for AfD

Thanks Stupid mistake made many times. I appreciate it. -Justin (koavf)·T·C·M 01:20, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Freddie

I hate it when that happens. I'll leave the creator a note and ask him to meet WP:BIO in the 1st cast. The first article I created got speedied too. Cheers, :) Dlohcierekim 03:06, 9 August 2006 (UTC) Heck, can;t find him. :) Dlohcierekim 03:08, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] db-advert

Thanks for the heads up, I'll go ahead and do that right now. Wildthing61476 03:04, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Redirects

Good question They came from articles, such as American Music Club and GG Allin which I was reading and included the improper capitalization (e.g. "Love Songs For Patriots" vs. "Love Songs for Patriots.") My rationale was, someday, someone will create these articles, and in the meantime, if something else links to them, they will direct to the proper article once it is made. If the proper article is made sometime later (by that, I mean if someone makes the article "Love Songs for Patriots"), the author may not think to make redirects from other improper capitalizations that have been strew about Wikipedia. Does that make sense? I'm not sure how articulate I'm being... Anyway, if you need more clarification, let me know. -Justin (koavf)·T·C·M 20:42, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks If, in fact, I did not change the redlinks in the articles (which is entirely possible), that's an oversight. I meant to also change the links themselves. At the very least, I'll do that, even if bots delete my redirects. Thanks again. -Justin (koavf)·T·C·M 20:51, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The rich get richer and the poor get poorer

What do you think now that the article has been rewritten and the origins of the phrase have been traced? Gazpacho 21:34, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Still didn't use the Billie Holiday, huh? Fan-1967 21:36, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Autoguide AfD

I'll wait until I get a vote or two either way before nominating those. I actually didn't notice them, just pulled this off the list of uncategorized pages. Thanks though. Crystallina 21:32, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Gaming Clans are not Notable

Please reconsider this position in light of all the evidence ive supplied of Shadowclan's notability. We are mentioned in at least two books (MMORPG's for Dummies and the Ultima Online Users Guide) plus all the links ive provided in the deletion thread. Bagginator 00:23, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Some clans may be notable within a particular game, or even within the gaming community. Let me know when they get notice from outside that community. Fan-1967 00:28, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Could you give an example of what you mean? I'm not sure how a gaming guild could receive notice outside of the gaming community. Bagginator 00:41, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Exactly. Fan-1967 00:43, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

That means you are not open to changing your mind? Bagginator 01:02, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

No. Quite frankly, I think it's a dangerous door to open. First we start listing gaming clans, because they're notable within their own community. Then, of course, we start listing individual gamers, likewise notable in their communities. Then every forum starts creating articles for their notable characters. I don't even want to think about the number of vanity articles we end up with, and endless arguments about who's a notable gamer, or a notable troll. <<shudder>> Fan-1967 01:05, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
I think the notoriety of this gaming clan far exceeds that of notable players. Players are possibly known server-wide, but not game wide, nor are they written into the lore of games as this gaming clan is. Perhaps we could begin discussions on the cannonization of a standard of proof for such a genre of Wikipedia articles, would this satisfy your concerns of the impact of such a precedent on Wikipedia? -Shazbot85 03:07, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Redirectioning

How do you redirect articles? The help page is not clear to me. Thanks for the help Nejee16 01:27, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Night Of A 1000 Cats

Homie's about to get blocked. Not only hoaxing, but creating sockpuppets to try to convince me that he's telling the truth.  :^) User:Zoe|(talk) 04:08, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Exactly my thought. User:Zoe|(talk) 04:19, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Red Links

My apologies, I thought I was helping out that Red Link Project thing I joined. I'm still new here, looking for a niche. Can you help? User To Be Named Later 15:33, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Did you delete my " A Good Friend " page?

[edit] Page Deletion

Did you delete my "A Good Friend" page?—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Bahamutzero0o (talk • contribs).

The page was tagged for lack of content Template:Db-nocontext and an admin deleted it. This usually happens very quickly. --Brat32 03:05, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Douglas Harding Entry

Please unprotect subject entry so I can create an original entry regarding this contemporary western philosopher in the mystic tradition. I am now fully aware of the copyright issue. Thank you. Wawrulez 02:10, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Answered on user and article talk pages. Fan-1967 02:12, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Damn you!

Damn you and your fast trigger finger. Every time I spot a contentless or irrelevant page, and go to add a speedy delete tag, you've got there before me. Keep uo the good work. :) - Illspirit

I believe we finally made a breakthrough with the Collopy guy. :) -Illspirit 04:58, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] User talk:202.156.6.54

Please stop feeding the troll. Bad enough that people keep forgetting to check 'anons only' when they block and allowing him back, it doesn't help if we give him the attention he craves. --Sam Blanning(talk) 14:34, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Guess you're right. Can't help hoping that you can manage to convince the kid (most likely) that he's just wasting everyone's time, but I guess it's a lost cause. Fan-1967 14:36, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Jile Holmberg

Trust me, I'm not feeding in this case, I was giving him enough rope to hang himself with. Wildthing61476 21:02, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Talk

I have made my points on my articles.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Allforgeoffxx9 (talk • contribs).

[edit] Kushcash

Hi Fan,

I am new to this place (great concept), can you tell me how I need to write the KushCash posting to keep it form being deleted? I sincerely hope you can help. Dorff

[edit] Deletion Review

[edit] Theta Beta Potata

This article was first started by me and was deleted back in May '06. I was reading the punk house article and saw that the link for the TBP article was no longer red so I clicked on it and there was an article back up, started by another user. I dont know who started it because, it was deleted soon after I saw it. The decision made in the "Article for Deletion" debate should be reconsidered. The article is about a punk house not a fratenal organization. It seems that the debate, run by User:ChrisB and results were reported by User:Mailer Diablo. I will post this on their talk pages. This is the first time I have requested a deletion review so please let me know what else I need to do. If there is anything. I am on wikipedia frequently and I want to learn. Thanks. Xsxex 16:37, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

  • cool thanks.. um also I dont know how to do it, but I had just re-written the article, (i think it was 2 days ago) and it had good references and etc.. I'm just wondering is there a way to bring the info back.. to a talk page or some how available for users who might be looking for information about the subject. Xsxex 16:43, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cornelius Roosevelts

I think that the way the titles are is all right. The grandson seems to be most known by the name Cornelius V.S. Roosevelt, while the earlier Cornelius is never called that, as far as I can tell. Academic Challenger 19:43, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

If that seems reasonable to you, OK. I'll add a DAB link to each other at the top of each page. Fan-1967 19:44, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Jean-Pierre Sammut

Hi, with regards to the ongoing AfD regarding Jean-Pierre Sammut and his companies, while the man seems like a complete arse (and a raging anti-Semite to boot), and his companies should definitely be deleted, both in article form and in real life, it appears that he is actually the Maltese ambassador to North Korea: look see. In my opinion this makes him notable (as long as his spam advertising and anti-Semitic ranting is kept out of the article). What do you think? I think this article should be disincluded from the AfD.. Jdcooper 16:13, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

  • Shit, I wasn't rigorous. You are right. Delete all then! Jdcooper 16:22, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RFA thanks

Thanks so much for being the first to support my RFA, which closed successfully this morning with a result of (64/3/3). I will be stepping lightly at first trying to make sure I don't mess up too badly using the tools. Any further advice/guidance will be gratefully accepted. I hope I will live up to your trust! --NawlinWiki talk contribs

[edit] Google Search

Regarding your comment: "Correction Hari Singh has made a factual error because Google searches search on text only. Commas are ignored. Therefore searching for "Daniel H. Wagner, Associates" will return exactly the same results as searching for "Daniel H. Wagner Associates". Adding "Inc" onto the end will only bring up results that were already returned in the search for the shorter string. So I suggest you completely ignore the above comment as it is factually incorrect Fan-1967 21:31, 23 August 2006 (UTC)", Please note although I agree with part of your statement, a search for "Daniel H. Wagner Associates" (Search A) produces 709 results compared with 9 quoted by User:Wafulz. Further, searching for "Daniel H. Wagner Associates Inc" (Search B) produces 759 results which is more than 709 and 9. So clearly the assertion made by user:Wafulz regarding this search are wrong. Further, Search A does not contain all of the items from Search B or the opposite. Also a search for "Daniel H. Wagner Associates Incorporated" produced 88 results. Considering the original comment mentioned only 9 hits how do justify effectively supporting this result, which is clearly incorrect. I would welcome your comments on this. Thank you. --Raj855 04:12, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you.

I would just like to thank you for deleting my articles that i worked so hard on. You can expect a song written about you, and this website. The song will contain vulgar, explicit, threatening lyrics that will make you shiver.

You should be ashamed of yourself for crushing all of our dreams. All we wanted was to have our measley little articles on the website, but no. You are an editing nazi, with a need for perfection arent you? You have gotten your little stars because you like to delete articles. It is people like you that uncleanse this earth, and that i lose sleep over at night.

Good day to you sir, and may the guilt burn in you for the rest of your years.

Sincerely, Wet Screams.

[edit] 2john

Thanks! - CrazyRussian talk/email 18:09, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The Phrase

It is pretty well known in the Cotswolds. I just thought it would be useful to tell people what it's all about. And yes I have considered using MySpace and I have.

[edit] Promoting TriStar Motors

We are the leader in dealer education in california and we are trying to use wikipedia to inrease the understanding of Car Dealer Education and Car Buyer Bill of rights.

If you visit the sites you will see that we go int depth on each of the topics!

[edit] The Phrase

It is pretty well known in the Cotswolds. I just thought it would be useful to tell people what it's all about. And yes I have considered using MySpace and I have.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Wongston (talk • contribs).

[edit] Promoting TriStar Motors

We are the leader in dealer education in california and we are trying to use wikipedia to inrease the understanding of Car Dealer Education and Car Buyer Bill of rights.

If you visit the sites you will see that we go int depth on each of the topics!—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Tristarmotors (talk • contribs).

I'm gay. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Pauldodd (talk • contribs).

[edit] Hi Fan-1967 - regards LUCIA artical

Hello there,

sorry if I have caused offence with my recent contribution.

Having read the Wikipedia site and noticed that their were alot of charities listed, I though I would add the one a group of my work colleagues started a couple of years ago.

I didn't realise this would fit under the "not for commercial promotion" category.

I'm happy to remove the article if it's a problem. Please could you point me to instructions on how to do this? I've looked, but no luck.

Many thanks, Stephen—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Steinbrum (talk • contribs).

[edit] Ah, sorry

...sorry ignore last request for info.

I've just found a page which explained "deletion can be performed only by administrators"

That'll teach me for not reading things properly !!! :-)

Best wishes, Stephen—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Steinbrum (talk • contribs).

[edit] Thanks

Yes, it is quite new ...end of 94/start of 95. So they've only been going about a year and half.

Thanks for that info. I'll try that now.

Best wishes, Stephen

[edit] About Capt. Saliya Aladeniya' article

Dear sir, I'm here by strongly say, we have right to do so.

Thank you, Lt.G.K.M.L.Karunarathne (RSP,USP) Sri Lanka Navy

[edit] Read the citation. The quote is the actual text.

Do not edit bias into exact text.TipPt 15:25, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

The quote is part of the actual text. The AMA does not recommend routine circumcision. The AMA does not recommend against routine circumcision. You think only one of those facts should be presented, and then accuse others of POV? Fan-1967 15:29, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] about "This article is still under construction."

Thank you.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Wiki man2 (talk • contribs).

[edit] About Capt. Saliya Aladeniya's article

I saw that you have very big problem with that article. I'm Sri Lankan, so I'd like to know that. And i believe that i can satisfy you about that article.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sl 1986 (talk • contribs).

Perhaps you can answer a question. What is the Sinhala word for sockpuppet? Fan-1967 19:33, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Redirects to userpages from the articlespace

Hello! I'm sure that you know that we don't redirect mistakenly-created userpages from the articlespace back to their userpages. Once a page has been userfied it can be marked for deletion, either by the author with {{db-author}} or by us with {{db-reason}}. Regards,  (aeropagitica)   (talk)  23:39, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

You were a bit too quick for me. As soon as I was done with the userfy, and leaving the user a note, I was going to tag the leftover redirect as a db-r2, but you'd already deleted it. Fan-1967 23:41, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Yes, I was sure that you knew! Sorry to tread on your toes like that! Regards, 23:43, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Actually, I've found that, with obvious autobios, there's a lot less hassle to just userfy it than there is in going through the rounds of db-bio and recreate and trying to explain what does and doesn't belong in article space. A fait accompli works much better. Fan-1967 23:48, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks for the lesson!

First post, I suppose I fell into the most common trap of all. Good looking out, there! Thanks again. Moo, and so forth. 15:02, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RC Patrol

I see you're doing time (like me) in the RC Patrol. Just wanted to let you know that the {{nonsense}} tag only applies to patent nonsense (for example: kjadfjas;oidjfmsd). Otherwise, you have to use another db tag. No matter how ridiculous, if it coherent, it isn't patent nonsense. See you round!--Esprit15d 18:17, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Za Anu i Vanju

I see you made exactly the same mistake as I did, and thought that db-foreign was for all foreign-language articles, not just for articles copied from another language Wikipedia (which it seems not to be). I've removed the tag and am listing the page on pages needing translation into English. Cheers, David Mestel(Talk) 06:59, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

You're right. No idea what it is. At a guess from the format it's a couple quotes with dates on them. No idea what the language is, other than some sort of Slavic. Fan-1967 07:01, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
I though it might be Dutch. --David Mestel(Talk) 07:37, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] acknowledge

Thanks for your email;

  • still dont have a clue what am I suppose to do with it.
  • By that I mean: is it more than a welcome?
  • By that I mean: is there such a concept as mentors inside Wikipedia?
  • Which then would imply: could I ask you for advices?

Be sure that I am comfortable with whatever level (from minus infinity to more) of support and mentoring you can bring me.

Best regards

Dilane 14:59, 3 September 2006 (UTC) dilane

[edit] Long-Overdue RfA Thanks from Alphachimp

 Thanks for your support in my not-so-recent RfA, which was successful with a an overwhelmingly flattering and deeply humbling total of 138/2/2 (putting me #10 on the RfA WP:100). I guess infinite monkey theorem has been officially proven. Chimps really can get somewhere on Wikipedia.

With new buttons come great responsibility, and I'll try my best to live up to your expectations. If you need assistance with something, don't hesitate to swing by my talk page or email me (trust me, I do respond :)). The same goes for any complaints or comments in regard to my administrative actions. Remember, I'm here for you.

(Thanks go to Blnguyen for the incredible photo to the right.) alphaChimp laudare 01:24, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

I thought this was a free encylopedia.

[edit] deji

thanks for letting me know. sorry i wasnt aware of that. i was just trying to get educate some of my coworkers, though i guess i was a little harsh.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Frank Castel (talk • contribs).

[edit] Public domain information

You recently tagged NAVFAC as a WP:COPYVIO. However, it is an official U.S. Navy site. As the U.S. Navy is a part of the U.S. Government, the material is public domain. I am removing the copyvio tag and adding external link as a ref. — ERcheck (talk) 03:56, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

I was not aware of that. I'll make a note for the future. Fan-1967 03:58, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. I realized that and was trying to work out how to delete one. I'll put in a redirect. Eightyuu 02:03, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

"You made more work for yourself than you had to. Rather than creating a new article, and editing the old article to redirect to it, just go to the article and click on the "Move" tab at the top of the screen. Type in the new title you want it at. The article will get moved to the new title, leaving a redirect at the old title, all in one step. Hope this helps."

[edit] John Jared Bowes

I don't understand why my entry on John Jared Bowes got deleted. He was a famous recording artist on Northern Records www.northernrecords.com in a band called The Billions www.thebillionsband.com He is now in a band called Ultra Sonic Edukators, whom played at Hedgpeth Music Festival with the Flaming Lips, and Primus amongst many other notable acts. Wikipedia even has an entry on Hedgpeth Music Festival in which the Ultra Sonic Edukators are listed! www.ultrasonicedukators.com you can google the name Jared bowes, or john bowes, or john jared bowes (he has gone by all 3 names) and find dozens of websites related to his career in music. Please reconsider the deletion of this artist.

[edit] John Jared Bowes continued...

The Billions on VH1.com (one of the most reputable music websites) http://www.vh1.com/artists/az/billions/artist.jhtml http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll that site was listed as a reference to find the bands accomplishments...John Jared Bowes is a former member of the Billions...and the link i posted above has 2 nationally released albums that he was on and wrote music for. Northern Records www.northernrecords.com is a major indie label with members of D.C. Talk on it as well as The Violet Burning, both very famous christian bands. The Billions went on a national tour with the Violet Burning a few years ago. he was also in a famous magazine called HM...there is an archived article here http://www.hmmagazine.com/oe/archives/000391.php you can also purchase The Billions albums on Best Buys website http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=13329034&st=the+billions&lp=1&type=product&cp=1&id=236522 an example of one of many reviews on very notable websites,this one from The Phantom Tollbooth http://www.tollbooth.org/2002/reviews/billions.html His new band Ultra Sonic Edukators listed on a Major Festival with an article from Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hedgpeth Ultra Sonic Edukators on international radio in the UK http://www.koobaradio.co.uk/shows/claire_dicko_show/2006_05_17.html Ultra Sonic Edukators music on more very credible websites http://www.gojangle.com/go/profile.php?queryWhere=artist&queryValue=Ultra_Sonic_Edukators&artist=Ultra_Sonic_Edukators&letter=U http://www.lostatsea.net/feature.phtml?fid=160131749844d38de47dc8fhttp://centerstage.net/music/whoswho/UltraSonicEdukators.html http://clubpix.kingsnake.com/index.php?stype=keywords&si=Edukators&action=search&cat=1&subcat=0

I can send more...or if you still don't think its adequate, let me know...and I'll find some more stuff

[edit] Rober Andre entry

You noted you could not verify Robert Andre or his films. External links have been placed to reviews of his work on his page. Robert Andre is a common name for a Google search. Please try "Robert Andre"+"School Without Walls". This will lead you to some of the postings on him, mostly from India. Friedco 22:03, 8 September 2006 (UTC)


        thanks

Wow i checked your contributions page. It was jam packed with stuff. I am a very knowledgeable person, and hope to help this site as much as you in the future.

P.S. thanks for the info on using wikipedia as a source.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Bballsc50 (talk • contribs).

[edit] X3i Television Series

So there is nothing we can do to get this page up? I'm not understanding wikipedia's guidelines. I dont get how some things are allowed, yet others arent. A student run television station can be on wikipedia but a student run television series cannot?? Please give me more insight on this or a better explanation than "it just cant".

Thanks

-AXanderSR

[edit] X3i TV Series

I think you and every other mod that I have spoken with today are basing this off of your own view of the show. In which, there is none because you all have never heard of it. This show is veiwed all over the net. It is not just a "small thing" If you need me to point out sites to you I can. There have been a very large amount of downloads and not to mention reviews and ratings on the series thus far. Trust me, this production has not only been seen by "a few" people. Its alot bigger than that. This is definitely one of the stand out works at The Ohio State University when it comes to film and video.

-AXanderSR

[edit] X3i TV Series

There has been only reviews on many many forums. The show is also the only series from OSU that plays on OSTN the Open Student Television Network. It is viewed on many other well known college campus's (Harvard, Yale, USC) across the US.

https://ceai1.campuseai.org/portal/page?_pageid=233,8571180&_dad=portal&_schema=PORTAL

We have had many reviews from watchers, we just havent had any huge reporters do anything on the series.

[edit] X3i

I'm going to just save all the code for this X3i page. When the movie is released next month, there will be a lot more buzz and reports on it. Then hopefully you all will be able to see the fanbase around the film. Reuploading a page is possible right??

[edit] X3i

Im still lost on the whole situation.

I do not understand your stance that Buck-i TV as a station is of significance for your site, yet the programming on the station is not (even if the given program is on the current roster of available shows as it has been for approximately two years.) I'm sure you are aware of the vast number of persons who attend The Ohio State University, and though they may not all watch the show, it is available to them via the network. I think the popularity of this actual show is only as relevant as the popularity of the network it appears on. Again, Buck-i TV made the cut. Also, about your request for a valid or notable review, I point to Buck-i TV as our source. Any notable review of the station would naturally have an overview of the programming. If that event has occured anytime within the last two years, X3i would have been a part of that review. Although I do not have any specific article to point out to you or that information readily at hand, it seems only natural that these two things would be connected. Our popular success is not soley connected to Buck-i TV, though. Our series and upcoming movie have had various viewings and reviews from multiple websites (and forums). I understand that you have rules and regulations, but it seems illogical that these criteria would invalidate the experiences and opinions of a rather large online, interactive community. I really do not wish to be confrontational about this. Any personal investment I may have in this project witholding, I still believe that the crux of this argument is that X3i is real, it is visible and consumable, and it is part of a network/community that is, or at least should be, recognized. I thank you for your time and hope to hear from you regarding this matter once again.

[edit] Fine

Sorry for your trouble I will not do it again until next week.

[edit] User talk warnings

Hey, could I ask you to make more use of WP:UTTM? Specifically, on User talk:Punitpunit with your warnings about advertising. When you use warnings from the standard templates, it is easier for other editors to see the warning progression to determine what corrective action should be taken if this user violates similar policy again. To that end, I've cleaned up all of his/her advertising that hadn't yet been fixed when I saw it. BigNate37(T) 16:42, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

You're right. Will do. Fan-1967 16:43, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Dickson, et al.

Yes, I'm the person who asked how to edit and (and identify my postings as based on personal communication). Obviously, in the meantime I figured out how to get an account at least. I'll go read all the how-to stuff, now, like a good girl. (The set-up account pages are not overly helpful on this.) Thanks for the cites.

Gordon was indeed an interesting man, and I was lucky enough to get to know him moderately well. Childe Cycle meant a lot to him, and because of that, how people perceive it means a lot to me.

If you were just getting active in Chicago fandom in the late 70s, we probably overlap a bit. I lived in Evanston from 72 to 79, discovering fandom by way of the SCA, the Dark Horde and Robert Asprin, someplace in the general sometime in the year before the first Windycon in 74. (Just looked up the early cons on the web -- walk down memory lane!)

[edit] Apology

I apologize. I am just trying to figure out how to add comment in this forum. I assure it was unintentional.

[edit] Bill Wilson

Thanks for fixing my faux pas on this one... I should've checked far enough back to realize that this was a redirect to the disambig page before slapping tags on it! :P --Kinu t/c 13:44, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Christopher Columbus

I appreciate your help on this reversion. Apparently I didn't go back far enough. Sigh. Dipics 15:36, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thankyou for deleting page "Liam Egan"

As I noted on Talk:Liam Egan, my account was misused by that person in question. Apologies and thankyou for the help. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Matdog311291 (talk • contribs) 04:23, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

The article i've publish is not nonsense, in fact it is purely objective! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jonnyng9 (talk • contribs) 04:33, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Vandalism

Hi there - fair point I can see the vandalism that has been done - I can only say that I did not do it - unless I did it by accident or someone hacked into my computer/username! - I will try and get to the bottom of it - --Lethaniol 16:36, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] I'm Having a Nervous Breakdown, Thanks To You.

You are VERY rude. Please, get a life and quit vandalizing my hard work. This article is okay by the standards, because it has a fan following.

[edit] Signing articles

Sorry I didn't realize. Thanks for correcting me. Though I don't think it matters cause now the Admins want to delete my stuff, oh well, lol.

[edit] souls'r'us

sorry, i forgot to click the sandbox button. I don't believe i have the capability to remove so if you could that would be great.

PS: i'll take that idea of uncyclopedia though

[edit] Wikiqueries

So, do I answer your comment on my talk page here or on my page?

Don't worry about making assumptions about my gender -- that's why I have a gender-neutral id. (Oops, no, I don't here, do I?) Generally, people assume I'm male if I'm posting about "things" and female if I'm posting about emotions; the whole thing facinates me. Shulamuth 19:38, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Are you threatening me?

For there is but oen bunghole! The almighty bunghole has no place amongst polio infected mortals! I am from lake titicaca!—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Bweaar (talk • contribs).

[edit] Welcome message

hello, why you reverted my edit? It was the correct date. greats, --Radikaler Zerstörer 13:47, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Appreciate your comments

As someone I respect here, I would be very appreciative if you could provide any feedback on my first attempt at an article, Foundation for Equal Families. Any comments would be well recieved. Thanks. --Gay Cdn (talk) (email) (Contr.) 00:19, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Speedy deletion template.

Are you required to add a notice to the user who wrote a page? The Zachary T. Moses page was almost clearly just a 15 year-old's sad attempt to promote himself. i was in the middle of adding that speedy deletion template when you added it, but I did not plan to leave him a notice...  Daniel_123  ► ► 19:59, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

  • I usually find it helps a lot to leave a note. Always leave the {welcome} first, then the notice. My experience has been that they're less likely to recreate it. Also, if it's an obvious autobio based on the names, and their userpage is a redlink, I'll move it to their user page and tag the article for delete as a {db-rediruser}. See the note I just left at User talk:Jrockstuart. -- Fan-1967 20:02, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Attack removed

<obscene rant from 67.175.107.47 (talk • contribs) removed>

[edit] Innocuous question :)

I've seen you around in many places - AfD, AIAV, AN/I, etc. You're very civil in your talk page edits, and you've been editing around here for a while. Would you like to be nominated for the mop and bucket? You may reply here or on my talk page or email me as you wish. Regards, Awyong Jeffrey Mordecai Salleh 15:41, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ultimate Spriters Forums

I think the article is not for deletion, it is linked with many pages such as Caiman.us (very very popular site), TMNT website, SPPf, PC and many others. Forums Grow every day, and one day it will be a global forum

[edit] US again

what conditions forums must have to be on wiki, please write it to me as i don't understand the link you left on wiki US page

[edit] Childe Cycle: Things to check

Hi. Some thoughts here: Childe Cycle: Things to check FilipeS 22:15, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] I think you're due for one of these:

The RickK Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
For your best efforts in keeping Wikipedia vandal- and vanity-free... keep your finger on that delete button! :)

Lucky 6.9 03:20, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Catalyst and Lone

Sorry about the article, I was trying to publish it as I worked on it. Next time I'll finish it before I publish it. Thanks for the heads up!

-Juansidious

[edit] odious

what wrong with my odious page.i dont get it

[edit] Dude...

Chill out. What's yur problem???? Is this all u do all day???? Tell on people???

my focus is not on the fact that he is neccissarily a teacher, but on his autographs. He's had thousands of people as his students, and about half of them ask me about information on his AUTOGRAPH COLLECTION. I'm in the process of documenting it, but,with people keep putting it up for deletion, it's a tad difficult. I fail to see how an 11000 piece collection is NOT notable; i consider any collection that is potentially worth millions notable.

I have yet to remove any tags since the initial mislabelings. Those are other people, not me. Maybe the fact that there's several other people trying to preserve the article should be a red flag that there is infact some legitamacy to the work in progress.

Plano Independent School District, a nationaly recognized district for the last 10 years, has a page up on him in their website. A link at the bottom of the page is provided. And if articles are simply going to be limited to everything covered by major new sources, then 9/10ths of all Wiki entries should be deleted.

I appologize, I had thought that by "free encyclopedia" Wikipedia's intention was to compile factual and trustworthy data into a single and reliable database on as many topics as possible. But clearly, the intention is to solely rehash information that can be found on thousands of other sites in the world and display information deemed important only by a selct few. Once, again, I am SO sorry for the misunderdstading.

[edit] Len Tower again

The process wonkism to overturn the AfD decision of Len H. Tower Jr. has been successful, and the new discussion, along with my criticism of the process now being followed, can be found at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Leonard H. Tower Jr. (second nomination). Please note that previous votes/comments are not being taken into account. See you there. - Samsara (talk • contribs) 08:02, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Regis dead

If you've got a cite that says Regis Philbin is dead, please provide it. If not, please stop reverting the article to include his death date. -- JHunterJ 23:18, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

No problem, your reverts happened to hit right after mine, so it looked like they were meant to restore the death date. Thanks! -- JHunterJ 23:22, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

i am so sorry. my friend brandon moore lied to me and told me that he died. i will check it out more carefully next time i put someone died.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Conor46304 (talk • contribs).

sorry haha, did i leave the change? I didnt mean to.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.236.187.20 (talk • contribs).

[edit] Hi

Just got your message. It wasn't ready to actually post, but I believe it is quite important to those who follow such things. Either way, thank you for your kind words. I will try to fix my errors asap.

Sinceraly,—The preceding unsigned comment was added by BlackWash (talk • contribs).

ur so lame—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Simpsonrichie (talk • contribs).

[edit] Kozman (talk • contribs)

Hi. I struck out your message to the above user because technically, he didn't vandalize the article. Is there a template better suited to creating nonsense articles? ... *shuffles off to browse bookmarks* ... the {{speedy}} templates seem to suggest {{Test1article-n}}. - CobaltBlueTony 17:46, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ed Choate

I see you've prod'd my article on Ed Choate. I can't say I'm surprised, honestly, given that he's nearly completely unknown and because most of the article content is referenced to his website. Before we continue, however, I wanted to say that I think Ed Choate is completely wrong about nearly everything in a political sense. I wrote the article, much like I wrote another article on an unknown Tennessee Senate candidate (David Gatchell) and another editor wrote another article about another unknown candidate (Bo Heyward), out of a desire to have an article on every candidate for the 2006 Tennessee Senate election. Unfortunately, because these people receive little press attention (rightly so, in my opinion), a lot of information in their articles has to be sourced to their website. The article on Choate merely reports his political views without spin (if anything, my center-left bias might have caused me to cherry-pick negative stuff from his website). I disagree with you that it is POV and request that you reconsider. Again, I completely understand why you tagged it like you did, but please take a moment to reconsider. Thanks! · j e r s y k o talk · 19:49, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

Your position is understandable. Regarding notability, that's obviously a discussion that would need to involve more people than simply you and me. About third-party reliable sources, note that each of the TN 2006 Senate canidates have been reported on in The Commercial Appeal, Memphis' predominant newspaper, and that the relevant newspaper article is linked in Choate's article (perhaps other TN newspapers have also reported on the candidates, but I haven't searched thoroughly). Additionally, note that the references to Choate's website in the article are used to describe his political views, and a candidate's website is certainly reliable per WP:RS as a source of that candidate's political views. · j e r s y k o talk · 19:59, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] re: Us Versus Them (band)

  • Hi... This page does not seem to me to meet the criteria for WP:SD because the author makes a claim of importance, and any claim of importance precludes WP:SD. I say this as a person who has deleted veritable bucketloads of non-notable bands and who agrees with you that there are way too many crappy band pages on Wikipedia. That said, failing to meet the notability guidelines is not grounds for WP:SD, and any claim of importance makes an article ineligible for WP:SD. You can certainly WP:PROD or WP:AfD them, but they can't be deleted without discussion. For confirmation, I refer you to the section "Non-notable subjects with their importance asserted" under Wikipedia:CSD#Non-criteria, as well as to a recent conversation I had with some admins.

Also, please accept a friendly reminder not to bite the newcomers and assume good faith --Rrburke 00:53, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

  • Hi again. Claims of importance don't have to satisfy or attempt to satisfy any of the notability criteria in order to avoid speedy deletion. Any claim of importance will do. The text I moved to the talk page:
"Please note Us Versus Them has been around since 1999 and establishing itself in Boston and the rest of the world. Us Versus Them is a pending trademark and also a band establishing themselves first in the US and worldwide via Myspace. We have had over 35 thousand listens between Purevolume and Myspace and a growing fanbase."
is enough to make the article ineliglible for speedy deletion. It's still eligible for WP:PROD or to being listed in WP:AfD, just not for deletion without discussion. If the author fails to make the case for notability soon, by all means drop a {{subst:prod|reason}} tag in. --Rrburke 01:29, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
  • I'm sorry. I don't want to seem obtuse. I just don't see it. What part of that do you see as an assertion of notability? Fan-1967 01:31, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
  • For better of worse, the threshold for a claim of importance is low. The admin who answered my query was of the opinion that "if it claims any kind of importance at all, an article is not eligible for speedy deletion. For instance, if a band's article says it is 'popular' or if they've released an album, it's a claim of notability." The claim of "a growing fanbase" is an assertion of importance, which ought to mean no WP:SD, even if it's not true or wouldn't rise to the notabilty criteria even if it were true. "Matt Romero released 11 albums solo under the name 'Us Versus Them' before forming the band in 2005" is not only a claim of importance, but if verifiable might satisfy the notability criteria, assuming the albums were released on a notable label. The point is, if they've got a claim to importance, even a frivolous one, it has to go through the full AfD or Prod process.
The admin goes on to say, "If what they say doesn't rise to the level of WP:BAND, it will generally be deleted virtually without contest at AfD, and prod will often work too. The kind of band articles that do meet speedy deletion are typically the ones that just state the genre of the band and name its members, and perhaps when they formed." --Rrburke 02:23, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

Us Versus Them has released albums on MP3.com with moderate success. UVT has released an EP recorded at Q Division Records, though, not signed yet, we have been reviewed (a damn good review might I add) by The Noise (Boston webzine) and we have been played on 'late night emissions' on 104.1 WBCN, probably the most popular and biggest rock station in Boston.

We have just begun now to fully promote the Us Versus Them machine and the wheels are in motion. Determination, ambition and the EXTENSIVE body of work that I have poured my blood sweat and tears in must be recognized and WILL BE recognized. I will fight until the end to have the world know we, I, Us Versus Them exists. -Matt Romero

[edit] Just a reminder...

As a courtesy for other editors, it is a Wikipedia guideline to sign your talk page and user talk page posts. To do so simply add four tildes (~~~~) at the end of your comments and your user name or IP address and the date will be automatically added. For further info see: Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines. Thanks. I'm commenting as I noticed here Glen 06:57, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Idea Mapping removal

Hi,


I seem to have a problem with my addition being deleted as I am not sure of the reasoning, I added a link to Idea Mapping Success as a way of brainstorming, that is how we brainstorm at Urban Verve (web design firm in Detroit area) and the method is used at Ford Motor COmpany, university of MI, university of Nebraska...etc. - I will have the author of the idea mapping book add a variation in the Variations including the new method as well.


The same link also belongs in MindManager page and Mind Mapping page - the author uses Mind Manager examples in her book, and also on her site, Mind Jet (the company behind Mind Manager) is giving away some of her Idea Mapping books with purchase of the software and also the book comes with a CD containing a trial version of Mind Manager.


The origins of Idea Mapping is rooted in Mind Mapping however it has been developed over the past 15 years into something more... so it is a newer way of mind mapping. So thats why it belongs on that page...


So given these facts can you please refrain from deleting our link? or at least tell me where I went wrong?

Anyhow thank you for the work in cleaning the wikipedia you guys are very vigilant...and I really appreciate the efforts.

Lenroc1999 15:49, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] ‎Jfroelich

Good morning. I wanted to bring this editor to your attention because of what I perceive as a conflict of interest. As you can see from his user page, he is a designer and salesman for a Bloomington, Indiana-based software company. At the same time, all of his edits have to do with that company and its products, essentially using Wikipedia as an extension of his activities as a salesman. Are there rules strictly forbidding such activity? Can all of these articles be tagged as spam/vanity/advertisement? I would like to know your thoughts and opinions on the matter. Thanks. ---Charles 16:08, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

This image was used to vandalise newstead woods school on posters, please delete as it serves no encyclopediac purpose. [[1]]

[edit] recent edits to articles posted by "shanoman"

Thank you for your courtesy and consideration. I do feel slightly embarassed for my pettiness, and I must admit that I was just fooling around, experimenting to test the limits (and speed of editing) of Wikipedia. I do not take any offense, and I am very sorry if I have wasted your effort, energy, time. Please inform me how I may make a contribution to compensate for these expenses (if nothing else, I hope I provided some entertainment for you). Have a good day!

---"SHANOMAN" (J. Shane Wells)

[edit] thank you

Thanks, I'll take your advice.

[edit] DBWF

I haven't found a 'firm guide' to what makes a micronation notable. We've been on a few blogs (as the butt of jokes, but hey, its 'press'), we've funded a Katirna Relief Worker (for a week, but thats better than nothing), we've got 'recognized' as an organization by a local (north west florida) newspaper's Organizations Links, and we finally made it into a book.

I really thought we had a 'shot' at staying around this time.

I hope you don't mind my giving it the 'old college try'.

Bo

[edit] DBWF, Your Note

A few others do care, they're not wiki folks (Some of our members won't even use the boards, they do there interaction in people space of via 'snail mail'). If notable means other wiki editors care, then We're sunk. I was hoping their would be a reasonably small number of 'outside mentions' that would be enough.

Oh well, how do the Cubs Fans say it 'Wait'll next year'?

[edit] Rober H. Shaffer

I'm still working on this. Thanks for your help.

--BrennanPalmer 21:00, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] DBWF

You may have a point, being mentioned as one of 25 notable persons in a 'who's who' of Greek Authorities on Armenian Culture wouldn't make the cut, so being mentioned in a book specifically about micronations probably isn't enough 'notability' either.

I think the 'delete because it was deleted before' clouded the issue. If its really about 'no one cares' and not becuase I 'recreated the article', then I'll just leave it be....

Thanks

Bo

[edit] roast beef

How terribly pedantic of you. I would have thought that most people looking up Roast Beef on Wikipedia, would do so to obtain a recipe. You must be an American

[edit] all people

[edit] all people are fucking notable

[edit] For you

For being more eloquent than I ever could be. Thank you. Whispering(talk/c) 21:57, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
For being more eloquent than I ever could be. Thank you. Whispering(talk/c) 21:57, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] BlueJackQ

Hi thanks for your input on the BluejackQ page. Hopefully we can decide on teh deletion or not fast, and i was wondering maybe you could help with the page maybe?

Just had a quick troll through your talk page and quite a lot of recognition. Well done!Mike 07:25, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Challenge ProMode Arena

Hi, you have voted for deletion of Challenge ProMode Arena article. Your state is: Delete Non-notable game mod. I've added some referenced proofs of mod's notability (no. of downloads, leauges and world-wide competitions). Please check this article once again and reconsider your statement. Thanks ;) Visor 12:51, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/DeFRaG

Oh, and check also DeFRaG article. I've cleaned up it and added some references. I also gave some proofs of this mod's notability at deletion page. Please reconsider your vote there also. Visor 14:26, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

As a matter of-fact I was not vandalising your page I am a resident of stowe vermont.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Briggsman122 (talk • contribs).

[edit] Alexis Stodghill Deletion

After that huge debate why isn't this vanity page deleted? It was concluded to be deleted at here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Alexis_Stodghill It's obviously not worth being on here, so why does it remain?—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 209.163.102.238 (talk • contribs).

[edit] Can I ?

Hi, I am, not sure who you are, but i would like to ask ... can i get a website linked from wikipedia without modifying it ... i just want to link a site .. it has good content but i can't figure out how to link it ...

Ed

[edit] thank you - question ...

thank you ... what i want to do is, take a site that is external, and format it for wiki, so that then it can be embedded in wiki ... is that possible?

[edit] or ...

or, better yet, i made a mistake and it seemed like wiki read my site and formatted it .. is there a tool i can use to format my site, then upload the wiki formatted files to my server and have it linked?

[edit] response

Well, as far as notability the project won 1st place in an engineering senior design competition, and the site has a great deal of information for interested students ... as well as a detailed account of the entire design process from start to finish ... if those type of documents are not allowed to be linked from wiki, then ok ... it is just too bad because it is a good resource ... also, yes wikipedia did read my site and convert it in wiki format, of course it cannot modify my site (i am not an idiot) but yes it did convert the source locally to wiki ... thanks ... and remember life is short ,,, calm down a little ...

Patakye 20:34, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Idea Mapping new page help

Hi,


We talked about a week ago regarding links that you had removed regarding Idea Mapping. I was then able to add them again with no issue along with a paragraph about Idea mapping as it relates to brainstorming - thank you for the help in that.

I just added a page about it, and since this is my first full wiki page I would appreciate any comments you might have to help me improve it.

One issue that I am having is that when I put in the external link to ideamappingsuccess.com it came back and told me that it is marked as a spam link...however this is the site where Idea Mapping was born and where all the examples are at. So please let me know how I can get it removed from the spam list and what to do not to have the same problems again, please keep in mind that I am new at this. My intent here is definately not to spam but add usefull content.

Thank you, Lenroc1999 21:40, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit]  ????

I'm sorry you don't agree with our ways of campaigning. There's no need to be a wise-ass about it. Perhaps you need to do something more exciting with your time than be a jerkoff belittling people that are actually trying to make a difference. 04:25, 5 October 2006 Zooch76

sorry about that :( there was hardly anything writtten and i cant speell

i did read it you told me not to do that speedy tag thing and i am not going to sorry

[edit] wikidian picture database

hi there is there a wiki wikidian picture album in wiki formated for ``the recommended sizeMessanger 00:02, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

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