Talk:Fantastic
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[edit] Capitalisation
"Fantastic" is capitalised throughout, as is other genres. This seems unusual. Any thoughts? Notinasnaid 12:28, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC)
This is very unusual. In my experience 'fantastic' is not capitalised when referring to genre. S.H.C. Etheridge 19:48, 3 Dec 2005 (GMT)
[edit] Toderov, Freud
Some reference should really be made to the work of individuals attempting to define the genre, such as Sigmund Freud's psychoanalytical approach and Tzvetan Todorov's more abstract literary-critical approach. S.H.C. Etheridge 20:29, 3 Dec 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Fantastic authors or fantastic stories?
The original text is misleading when it says:
- "Examples of writers of Fantastic literature include E.T.A. Hoffmann, Nikolai Gogol, Oscar Wilde, Mikhail Bulgakov, Abram Tertz, and Bernard Malamud"
This implies that the list that follows is of writers who exclusively or mainly wrote pieces in the fantastic genre. It would be preferable to cite particular works when referring to authors.
This list could also be expanded to include Guy de Maupassant (assorted works), Théophile Gautier (La Cafetière), Alphonse Daudet (L'Homme à la cervelle d'or), Edgar Allen Poe (The Black Cat), and others. S.H.C. Etheridge 20:23, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Definition
Any thought on including Todorov's definition from his book "The Fantastic"? (paraphrased) "First, the text must force the reader to consider the world of the characters as real and existing, as well as oblige the reader to hesitate between a natural and supernatural explanation of the text's contents. Secondly, the reader must reject allegorical and 'poetic' interpretations of the text. A third, optional constraint is that the hesitation or ambivalence regarding a real or supernatural explanation of the text's events may be experienced by a character in the text."
- I second that, I just ordered the book, waiting for it to arrive. --Jahsonic 20:41, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] More examples
I'm not sure so who is, might add the movie Hearts in Atlantis (film) to the list ! Maybe the novel too, but i havent read that.
Hi, Im sorry I never actually edit these things, but I just dont understand why someone would post incorrect information on a resource like this. Anyways, whoever decided to write about Todorov's Fantastic should have read his book Introduction a la litterature fantastique The uncanny does not fall under the genre of the fantastic. Firstly the fantastic, says Todorov, falls on the border of two genres: the marvelous and the uncanny. Secondly, the fantastic is only the fantastic as long as the hesitation exists. The fantastic will always end when the reader makes the decision whether or not he will use an explanation grounded in the laws of nature to account for the phenominality or grounded in new supernatural laws. If he does the former, then it is uncanny (the article says the exact opposite here!). There is much more that needs to be corrected in this article, and I would discourage relying on it. -----Amye
