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Contents 1 Long Article 2 Resemblance 3 Racism 4 American Dad vs. Family Guy 5 "Confusion over season" section 5.1 Moved content 5.1.1 Confusion Over Seasons 6 Vandalism 7 Change Criticism back to Criticism & Controversy. 8 Harelip references 9 Family tree 10 CFD notice 11 What? 12 Stage Gage 13 The Essay Section 14 Site updates 15 Stupid 16 Carol Burnett lawsuit

[edit] Long Article

I agree that this page is getting too long. I would suggest really cutting down on the opening sequence. The lyrics don't really help a reader understand anything. I think it would be best served by a short description of its nature and style and a screenshot. In addition, I think the history of family guy should be its own article. It's gone through a lot of big twists and turns, and I think many are too important to just delete, but I don't think they deserve the space in the main article either. I think the main Family Guy article would be better served just by a paragraph on its first airing, cancellation, dvd resurgance, and then return. Wren5x 09:58, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Not a bad idea. We just need a paragraph or two to serve as summary before it's moved John Reaves

The criticism section seems a bit long as well. Most of what is posted there is already posted in the Criticism of Family Guy page. Either that section could be shortened, or someone could simply even put See Criticism of Family Guy. Stills64 00:15, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

We need to move anything that isn't there to that article. Other than that , I see no reason not get rid of it. John Reaves 01:11, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Eh, it just seems kinda silly to me to have all that information on this page when it pretty much appears the same on the Criticism article. It just makes this article a little longer than it needs to be. Just my two cents. :) Stills64 17:11, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Resemblance

Maybe this is just me, but no one else seems to have noticed it. Are the anchors of the Quahog 5 news, Diane Simmons and Tom Tucker, based on the anchors of 20/20 news, Elizabeth_Vargas and John Stossel? Look at pictures of them here. [1],[2] OneWorld22 04:42, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Racism

There have been many racist acts in Family Guy such as: Stewie Griffen said that black people should be thankful, which is racist, Brian barks at Black people, Peter states that he got crack from Blacks but then said behind Blacks (a store) from some white guys, and when all of the police were gone, all of the white people in the scene took of their disguises and revealed that they were black.

I would say that they are "racial" not "racist" as they are intended to parody these preconceptions, not reinforce them. For example, in the episode where Brian is a Taxi driver, he inadvertently speeds past Cleveland, a play on a common joke/fact that black people have difficulty getting taxis to stop for them. The explicit titling of Trisha Takanawa as an "Asian reporter" is also a play on the fact that many news stations have female Asian reporters (and relatively few male ones), an allusion to another fact of life, Asian fetish. This theme is further exemplified by a recent episode in which Peter comments "there are three kinds of people: nerds, bullies, and hot Asian chicks". Family Guy is not being racist by playing on these stereotypes -- instead, I think the intent is to out these modern, real-life examples of racism by presenting them within the comedic context of the show. Cyaugin 13:16, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] American Dad vs. Family Guy

Why in the name of Adam West is there no mention of this wonderful webgame in either the American Dad! or Family Guy wikis? 84.65.201.101 00:43, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

It's not mentioned, because that bit of info isnt really relevant. Dappled Sage 03:21, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

I Made an Article (Superjustinbros. 18:58, 20 February 2007 (UTC))

[edit] "Confusion over season" section

Uh...whats with this section? Looks like someone meant to put this in the editing section? Please fix this!Mofs 21:45, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Inappropriate for an article, so I'm moving it to here. These are not my comments; check the recent history. If a style guide reference is desired to support deletion from the main article, we can start with Avoid first-person pronouns.- PhilipR 22:16, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Moved content

[edit] Confusion Over Seasons

There has recently been an on going war between me and other Wikipedia members over the title sequence section of this page.

(Along with lots of arguments with other season related things e.g. Episode Guide) BUT there is

proof that the current season is season 6 and this proof is as follows:

The picture on the box set (LEFT) says season 5....but there is also the American box set (RIGHT) ..... This is just saying it has been undecided what season this falls under. The (LEFT) season 5 box set was decided after the release of the volume 4 box set in the US, as it was a UK release it came long after the volume 4 box set and by then they had decided what the season they are on now currently is. So it is now proven they are on season 6 of family guy now.

Thanks to whomever removed the gibberish in the family guy article.

I'd just like to comment that the article should reflect only the American version as that is its country of origin. Although a side note about the British version would be fine. John Reaves 01:48, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

The seasons vary in different countries, it's just different marketing in Britain. Anyway it is an American show and what is called in America is the official way, on the dvds Seth Macfarlane states that volume for is season 4 and so is the movie... The Danielmeister 13:56, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Vandalism

Due to the recent Vandalism taking place in this article, i suggest you guys protect it. Take care.

PS:: I will join soon. --200.89.6.215 08:39, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Change Criticism back to Criticism & Controversy.

I don't see why the controversy information was ever removed. It's obviously noteworthy, as many groups and individuals have been offended by and/or spoken out against Family Guy. Family Guy was even rated as one of the worst family television shows. --Gaming King 11:51, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Harelip references

What's with the running gag where someone mentions how much theyre disturbed by people with a harelip? That's happened like 3 times.

[edit] Family tree

Has there already been a discussion about the family tree? I think it's rather poorly put together and is about half taken up by "unnamed" or "many relations". Does it add anything to the article?--Dmz5 05:03, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Well, I removed it. Please feel free to disagree with me. I maintain that it doesn't look good and is full of blank spaces, plus it might constitute original research.--Dmz5 10:48, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

I agree with you. There are too many question marks. Plus I'd take anything Peter says about his genealogy with a huge grain of salt. Cromulent Kwyjibo 22:49, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] CFD notice

[edit] What?

I removed this, because it 1. did not cite who said it, meaning that anyone could have written it and 2. It seemed biased and like it was writen by some jaded family guy fan. Wikipedia is an encyclopidia, not a fourum. The only opinions that matter are of people who matter like for example like a key person in an issue/conflict. If you want to see the thing I removed it is below this sentance..--Uber Cuber

'It all comes down to jealousy. Family Guy was such an underground hit that Fox pulled them out of being cancelled, and they continue to grow in popularity. People demanded Family Guy be brought back, and even sent things like diapers for Stewie to Fox studios to try and get the message accross. Futurama is also making a Family Guy like comeback. While te Simpsons become less funny with every episode, and try to reach out to a younger audience by having the characters use slang terms, etc etc, but nothing seems to be helping. While Family Guy continues to crank out funnier and funnier episodes. It's a sad time for The Simpsons.'

[edit] Stage Gage

"In Episode 5, Season 5, Whistle While Your Wife Works, they, for the first time, made a "Stage Gag" by having Peter tripping on a stair on the stage and crushing one of the dancers, puncturing her lung."

Bascially, thats not true. The whole DVD-Movie is a "Stage Gag", referring to the main characters as "actors", going to the red carpet... etc. ... etc... but even if this not canon in the Family Guy universum, in "Saving Private Brian", Stewie awaits a clip with the words "Thought we had a clip here", directly breaking the fourth wall.

Some episodes have the family talking about fox cancelling them and giving them budget cut, in one episode there is even a song about how fox would never let them die, stage gags are an extremely common joke in family guy. The Danielmeister 14:00, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

What do you mean that "in one episode there is even a song about how fox would never let them die"? If you're talking about the song "Road to Rhode Island" in the episode Road to Rhode Island, there is only the line "Until we're sindicated FOX will never let us die. Please." that Stewie sings. The only other time that the song talks about the fact that they're on TV is when Brian, while dressed in a college sweater, sings "We may pick-up some college girls and picnic on the grass" in which Stewie, while dressed in a cheerleader's uniform, replys by singing "We'd tell you more but we would have the censers on our ass." Unless you're talking about that song, I would have no clue what song you're talking about.--BrianGriffin-FG 19:18, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The Essay Section

The Bit which is marked to require a cleanup is, well, too complicated. I can't understand half the words and it gives me a headache - I have tried, and failed to cleanup this article but cannot, can anyone succeed in doing this? JoWal 11:40, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Gave it a superficial shot myself -- mostly by cleaning up a lot of the cruft. One or two examples should be sufficient for any facet of this article. Didn't remove the essay tag, however, in case it could use further examination. Captain Yesterday 07:01, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Site updates

You know te coming soon tab from the offical site? howcome those updates arent in action?????(24.184.46.20 17:56, 19 February 2007 (UTC)) (Superjustinbros. 15:21, 4 April 2007 (UTC))

Broadcasters

MTV Central is the new german broadcaster

[edit] Stupid

The description of Chris should read "...Your Mom..." rather than "...low intelligent..." unless it's some kind of obtuse joke.

[edit] Carol Burnett lawsuit

Should the article mention the lawsuit Carol Burnett filed against Family Guy? see this report: [3], and this one: [4] —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.17.129.70 (talk) 05:04, 17 March 2007 (UTC).

I don't see why not. --Wirbelwindヴィルヴェルヴィント (talk) 05:29, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Well, I can't add the info myself, since the page seems to be protected from anonymous editing... So someone else would have to add it. 70.17.148.120 17:01, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

I can't believe carol burnette would sue family guy,especially since her show and family guy both make parodies of other shows.-hotspot

Yep, and that's what the news articles say. --Wirbelwindヴィルヴェルヴィント (talk) 19:41, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

It's over her cartoon maid character being parodied too closely to the real character. A parody is safe as long as it's obviously a parody. When Family Guy parodied it, it looked too much like the original character. I think it's worth adding, personally. SkittlzAnKomboz 02:29, 1 April 2007 (UTC)