Talk:Falun Gong and live organ harvesting

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[Veracity of Falun Gong's Allegation]

I would like to encourage everyone to look into the facts of the case regarding the "Auschwitz/concentration camp" allegation made by Falun Gong.

I have been following the story since March. I researched this matter after being given a flyer in Chinatown - and I have found many things wrong with this allegation.

In my opinion Falun Gong's actions not only discredited their own cause, they also detracted from honest examination of China's problems. Falun Gong's indictment muddles the rational discussion of issues such as China's legal reform, and Chinese society's moral, ethical standards on dignity and treatment of the condemned.

It is in this spirit I would like to bring to your attention some contrarian facts surrounding Falun Gong's recent media activity:

- US State Department investigated and found the allegation not credible. (1)

- A Congressional brief on China and Falun Gong questioned the veracity of Falun Gong's claim of genocide. (2)

- Long time Chinese dissident, Mr. Harry Wu, investigated the allegation and found Falun Gong's witness unreliable. (3)

- The hospital Falun Gong accused is partly owned by a Malaysian health care company and subject to oversight beyond Chinese authroity. Malay officials have documented prior year visit, and the facility has been open to public for years. (4)

- The Gory photos used by Falun Gong for shock value are not evidence of torture or vivisection.

One example is the autopsy photo of Mr. Wang Bin. Pathologist review contradicted Falun Gong's claim. (5) Even according to Falun Gong's own evidence, an autopsy was performed as part of Mr. Wang's murder investigation held by local authority. (6)

Another photo that is widely mis-used by Falun Gong is of Mr. Liu Yufeng, it too does not prove torture or vivisection. In reality these autopsy photos prove the opposit is true. Chinese government was not complacent and investigated death of citizens while under police custidy.

In conclusion, while China's human rights record should be examined, writing allegory of "Schindler's List" is not the way. If we in the west can not be precise with our accusation, only resort of nefarious political indictment - why should anyone take what we say seriousely?


References: 1) http://usinfo.state.gov/xarchives/display.html?p=washfile-english&y=2006&m=April&x=20060416141157uhyggep0.5443231&t=livefeeds/wf-latest.html

2) "The Collateral of Suppression", a report critical of China written for Senator Dianne Feinstein, member of Congressional Executive Committee on China (CECC).

3) http://www.zonaeuropa.com/20060806_1.htm http://www.cicus.org/news/newsdetail.php?id=6492

4) http://crc.gov.my/clinicalTrial/documents/Proposal/TCM_Stroke%20TrialProtocol%20synopsis.pdf (page 3)

5) Review by Dr. Friedlander, Chairman of Pathology Dept. at Kansas City University of Medicine.

Specifically, the Kilgour Report Appendix 12, Case 1 involving Mr. Wang Bin, where the photo showed 'Y' incisions in the neck and baseball stitch suture, which are typical of autopsy. The fact organ removal by medical examiner during autopsy is routine, is omitted.

6) http://clearwisdom.net/emh/articles/2000/11/16/6164.html


Hey man, are you working for CCP ???