Talk:Fair catch kick
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[edit] Other kick attempts without documentation
I know of these attempted free catch kicks, but I do not have the documentation to back them up:
- San Francisco failed an attempt against Minnesota in the 1989? Divisional playoffs.
- New York Giants' PK Joe Danelo attempted one against either Dallas or Washington near the end of the 1978 or '79 season (it was a game with playoff implications, as I remember).
Hopefully, this will jog someone's memory. --Twigboy 18:35, 20 December 2005 (UTC).
- I did some googling, and found this thread.
- Your first one: According to the most recent edition of NFL Insider magazine (Feb/Mar 2003), it happened in a 1988 NFC Divisional Playoff Game between the Vikings and the 49ers. John Taylor called for a fair catch at midfield with 8 seconds left in the first half. Bill Walsh requested a free kick and Mike Cofer attempted a 60-yard FG with Barry Helton holding. The kick fell short and was downed by Joey Browner in the end zone. This was apparently January 1, 1989.
- Your second one: I witnessed one of the most recent times this odd play occurred. It was a November 1979 game between the Redskins and Giants at Giants Stadium during Phil Simms' rookie year. Trailing 7-3 just before halftime, the Skins pinned the Giants deep in their own territory and forced them to punt. Bobby Hammond fair caught the Dave Jennings punt around the 50-yard line with a couple seconds left in the half. We all watched with amazement as Mark Moseley placed a tee on the 50 and, as his teammates milled around behind him, uncontestedly kicked the ball off the tee toward the goalposts. The kick ricocheted off the left upright and bounced away. No one really knew what had just happened...I remember people in the stands around me asking "Would that have counted if it went through?" It wasn't until we listened to the post game show on the car radio that we learned about this bizarre rule. I can't figure out the day, but it was apparently week 13.
- Does anybody else know anything else about these games (especially a date for the second one, or box scores for either game)? --Arcadian 19:29, 20 December 2005 (UTC)
I've completely overhauled the "Known attempts" section, adding about 15 fair catch kicks I've discovered in contemporary game reports. --Quirkyresearch 00:08, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Quirkyresearch additions
User:Quirkyresearch added a complete list recently, but I commented out the information to hide it until we iron out a possible copyvio violation. There is no certainty that user Quirkyresearch is the author of the Quirky Research blog from which the entire "known attempts" section is verbatim. If Quirkyresearch is, indeed, the blog author, then the information must (WP:CV) have some public-domain/creative-commons release so that the information can appear here verbatim. All of that in consideration, we should only link to the full list, but I would welcome the list reappearing in some kind of repackaged form. All said, this is fascinating information provided by Quirkyresearch. I just think the link is more appropriate at this time. —Twigboy 18:40, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
- I've given permission to use the material from my site, and am in the process of adding citations for each kick, so editors may restore the list to Wikipedia if they see fit. --Quirkyresearch 16:37, 4 October 2006 (UTC)