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Should this be merged into List of Doctor Who monsters? --khaosworks (talk • contribs) 04:07, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

It should certainly be merged somewhere, but I'm not sure that's the proper place. List of Doctor Who villains doesn't seem right either. Huh.--Sean|Black 04:19, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

Now that monsters are at the more neutral List of Doctor Who aliens, should the Face be merged into that list? Or does his return in the second series mean that he merits a page of his own? —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 06:51, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

I'd say it's long enough not to be a stub, and will be added to when he shows up again. --khaosworks (talk • contribs) 07:17, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

I think The Face Of Boe might turn out to be very important - we are constantly being reminded of him in Series 1, so he should have his own page. DavidFarmbrough 09:54, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

Contents 1 Telepathic 2 Secret 3 Category: Fictional Prophets 4 Living TARDIS? 5 Citation, or something 6 Expansion on "You are not alone"

[edit] Telepathic

Just watched New Earth and the Face spoke with the Doctor and Rose by telepathy. He also told the Doctor they would meet again, so it looks like keeping this as a separate article was correct. HTH HAND —Phil | Talk 19:31, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Secret

Does anyone else think "You are not alone" might be a likely candidate for the Face's big secret? In the Doctor Who 2006 Annual, the piece on the Doctor by RTD said that on a distant planet there was a stone, with carvings of a mass destruction, and one lone survivor walking away. Below this are the words, "you are not alone". This could of course refer to the Dalek, but it's always possible it means that another Time Lord survived. Let's just hope it's Romana and not the Rani, eh? --Codenamecuckoo 08:52, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

The four words might be "I am your father"! ;) Tanru 14:14, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

This is now speculation chat and not about the Face of Boe page, but it might be worth remembering that the Face will reveal his secret to one of his own kind. This either means that the Face is himself a Time Lord, or that it won't be the Doctor to whom he reveals his secret, even though the Doctor will be present....or it could mean that the Doctor isn't a Time Lord but a big stone face! DavidFarmbrough 08:01, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

Or that "his own kind" doesn't refer to species, but to being the last survivor of a long-dead race (which was how I read it)... —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 08:15, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

The Face being a timelord is quite a possibility - think about what he said in response to being asked about him living for millions of years. As a timelord he could have travelled across those millions of years, without being millions of years old. Very interesting stuff. David 19:26, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

Seems unlikely to me, not least because of the RTD-written bit in the book Monsters and Villains, which gives more backstory about the Face, and his status as the last of Boekind. Plus, what exactly would be involved in a Gallifreyan (basically humanoid, give or take the extra heart and respiratory bypass system) transforming into a giant head with dreadlocks? I shudder to imagine. —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 16:18, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

'According to the show's producer (Russell T. Davies) when this time comes the Face will pass on the four words that make up the secret to the Doctor, and that it will be "fantastic".' -- Crap. Any time RTD describes something as "it will be fantastic" it ends up being total garbage. Now I'm dreading it. Ravenswood 17:52, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Well whether it turns out to be 'fantastic' or 'garbage', this wikipedia entry suggests we will find out in the next series: "In an interview in DWM #374 Davies confirmed that the Face would say his message in season three, and that this was connected to the season finale." Which is good to hear because I was worried that it would end up being left as late as possible to build up suspense and then become the victim of the series somehow being cancelled so we never found out... At least this way we know we'll hear it, even if it turns out to be rubbish. I think I'll try and remain optimistic for now though... How about "I'm a little teapot"? :P Aetyr 00:49, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Category: Fictional Prophets

Apart from my astonishment that any such category exists, is the Face really a prophet? All he has been seen to prophesy is that he and the Doctor will meet again when he will reveal his secret. That's a one-off, isn't it? And too specific and personal to qualify him as a 'prophet'? DavidFarmbrough 07:23, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, I think it's a bit of a reach. —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 16:14, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Living TARDIS?

Well there's speculation that this head is a Time Lord.. but after he "teleported" away suddenly at the end of New Earth, perhaps he didn't teleport at all, but travelled to another time? Maybe he's a living TARDIS (Ala Compassion)? This could help explain some of the confusion about his age too.. Anyway, just a random thought. :P Rehevkor 13:38, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Citation, or something

The paragraph that begins "We are told" is very mysterious. What is the source of the statements made in this section? Also, this paragraph is written in the first person, instead of third. Ravenswood 17:47, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Expansion on "You are not alone"

If we put together the facts that:

- The Doctor Who Annual 2006 mentions the phrase "You are not alone" in relation to the timewar. - RTD says that TFOB will say 4 words. - Those 4 words relate to the third series finalé. - And finally the rumours of The Master being in the third series finalé..

Does this warrant a sub-category mentioning the theories about "You are not alone" and what this could mean in relation to the finalé as well as The Master? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Gothicfrog (talk • contribs) 23:04, March 11, 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, I don't think there's any way to do that without veering into original research. If you can find any of this speculation in a reliable source (such as Doctor Who Magazine or SFX), then we could include it with proper attribution, but otherwise we can't put it in.

The good news is that we won't have long to wait before we see the Face again, and presumably hear those four words, at which point we won't need to speculate. —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 06:20, 12 March 2007 (UTC)