User talk:Fabshelly

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[edit] Mr. Tan

[edit] Bae Yong Joon

First, welcome to wikipedia. I can forgive you, since I believe that you are new to wikipedia. I am happy that you are at least keen enough to discuss this matter with me.

I would suggest that you look at famous personalities such as Jodie Foster, Richard Gere. There is no harm mentioning personal information in general, because every piece of information influences the outlook of an article, and thus attracts the reader as a good article (See Wikipedia:Pushing to 1.0. I did cite sources, as by Wikipedia:WikiProject Fact and Reference Check, and the very External Links section provides the essential citations. Look at the fan craze section and the x fact--an internet link serves as a citation. Furthermore, he had seperated. I believe that Bae wouldn't mind about it so much--in fact, he officially publicised this fact. All information on Bae on the internet are officially acknowledged by Bae. Provate informmation, such as his home address---you will never find it on the net. Did I violate his provacy, in this case?

In contrast, your proposed edition of his Acting Career tells only the roles he acted as in his filmography. And also, I do not wish to see Ppilku removed---he did act in a role in this movie, only that it is a minor role---our objective on wikipedia is to make it the most authorative source of information in the world. Perhaps you can look at Wikipedia:Manual of style before reconsidering your edits.

Also, from the comment stated on Talk:Bae Yong Joon that the Bae's company staff and that many of his fans (including me, of course, but I'm neutral) are opposed to the content of wikipedia--cited in an Hankooki article cited on the talk page of Bae. This is a serious matter that his staff should not poke into---look at Marty Meehan. A section has even stated his wikipedia involvements on "correcting" his personal data has been edited and a page on Wikinews:Story preparation/ Research-United States Department of Justice workers among government Wikipedia vandals his staff has been put up. The American media has even reported of Wikipedia involvement of his staff---there are no other personalities who does such things besides him for now. This is ultimately bringing a smear to Bae's reputation---parallel to Meehan case, sad to say.

Bae has done nothing much controversial, as far as I know, and he is a good man. However, sooner or later, I'm afraid that if the wikipedia controversy continues to be visible on the news media on Bae's article on Bae, he might end up the same fate as Marty Meehan. I won't edit it, but there are lots of other zealous wikipedians who would not hesitate. As I say, wikipedia is a fierece and wild place, at least to some extent. I have suffered before. Also, please don't use vulagrities on me. Wikipedia:No personal attacks deals such behaviour seriously. Please be gracious.

Edit as you wish, but please do not remove information explicitely just because you believe that my edits contains false information/old, dead rumors of Bae. Comb his official site and official fanpage in all avaliable languages---Korean, English, Japanese and Chinese are the most readily avaliable sources, especially the links cited in the external links. Ask me only if you really can't find the points you still doubted, but please don't take matters into your own hands, and let's settle it as swiftly as possible. Thanks. Mr Tan 07:33, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Talk:Bae Yong Joon

Hello, please look up the page cited above, for further comments. Mr Tan 13:56, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Regarding your Mediation Cabal Case

Hello! Your Mediation Cabal page has been created, and we thank you for considering us to assist in your dispute, however there are a couple simple steps left that are required before we can accept your case:

1. Go to the case page: Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2006-06-25 Bae Yong Joon

2. Copy this into the blank page: {{subst:medcab2}} and save the page.

3. Edit the page and answer the questions at the beginning. Please remember, when explaining your situation, that we have previously not been involved in the dispute and therefore do not know what the dispute consists of.

This will help expedite our acceptance of your case. Thank you. ~Kylu (u|t) 06:22, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

Oh, but you type the above as it appears when looking at the page normally, so just remove the <nowiki> tags and it should work. :) Cowman109Talk 00:29, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
I already removed the tags so just fill it out.Geo. 20:22, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Defence

Please see Talk:Bae Yong Joon for further comments. I did not commit the allegations you accused at [1]. Mr Tan 15:18, 28 June 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Oh, please.

You did, and you continue to do so. I mean, really: "Don't remove information just because it's false?" Grow up! Go to journalism school or at least learn about the English definition of "facts"

Also, you're citing sources for your lies that are word-for-word lifts of your incorrect wikipedia entries as basis for your incorrect wikipedia entries.

If you enter yourself in a pissing contest and have a small dick, Mr. Tan, you're gonna end up with wet shoes.

[edit] Mediation

Would you consider participating in mediation with Mr Tan on Talk:Bae Yong Joon, so that we can reach an amicable solution? I must warn you, though, that rudeness and personal attacks like the one above are not acceptable, and should you choose to continue with them, mediation will be ended and formal action taken against you. --David Mestel(Talk) 14:58, 18 July 2006 (UTC)