Talk:F.C. United of Manchester

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Surely this is FC United

• Yeah, that's the only name I've heard for it as well. I've heard the name might change so I'm going to wait until Monday's meeting before moving the page, but I've changed it to FC United in the text and set up a redirect. I sent the original author a message asking where they'd heard it was United FC but haven't had a reply. Cantthinkofagoodname 12:08, 26 May 2005 (UTC)

Contents 1 Club colours 2 TV programme 3 Edits by 217.33.107.82 4 Places this article has been used 5 POV 6 Hostile takeover 7 Giving players their own articles 8 Player list 9 Former Players 10 Not a news page.

[edit] Club colours

The club colours haven't been announced yet, but the infobox looks horrible if I don't put some in so I made a (probably reasonable) guess. If anyone knows how to have an infobox without club colours please remove them. Thanks, CTOAGN 15:00, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Changed the away to white, that default brown was ... Esprit 16:17, Jun 21, 2005 (UTC)

No probs, but...red socks? I've heard the home kit will be red, white and black, so I'll change the socks back. If you've heard differently revert it but please let me know where from (so I can go round and argue with whoever's responsible :-D ) Cheers, CTOAGN 09:04, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Just found this on the FCUM site: [[1]]. Looks like it's red, white and black (see last sentence). CTOAGN 10:01, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

The crowd figures for the Leek match is impressive, but what was the score??! -- Arwel 11:46, 14 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] TV programme

Not relevant to Wikipedia, but might be of interest to someone reading the article. I'll delete this after the programme airs. From the club's website:

BBC North West is to broadcast a documentary on FC United this coming Monday September 26th at 7:30pm.

The half-hour programme looks at the reasons for the formation of FC United and includes exclusive behind the scenes footage, match action and interviews. Whilst Monday's programme will only be broadcast in the North West the programme will be available ta the same time to digital and satellite viewers. Sky Digital viewers outside of the North West can see the programme on channel 948.

[edit] Edits by 217.33.107.82

Can someone check this user's edits today and yesterday? There were a couple of nonsense sentences mixed in with his edits, so I reverted. -- Curps 10:53, 29 September 2005 (UTC)

Hi there... I was trying to update the information on the playing staff. I presume the "nonsense" sentences were: "Questionable choice of match day underwear" - this refers to the player apparently wearing a thong under his shorts. "Fixes toilets, eats beans, plays for FC United" - this player appeared on a BBC1 documentary this week, in which he described his day job as a plumber before having his pre-match meal before playing in the match. Both these have quickly made their way into club folklore, but if you'd rather they were left out that's fine!

By all means put them in, but in a more plainly explanatory way (this is an encyclopedia after all). Not everyone who reads the article is "in the know" about club folklore, and references that will make some readers smile knowingly will simply puzzle others. Particulary with vandalism targetting some of our articles (including Manchester recently), it's easy to misunderstand the point of adding those particular sentences. -- Curps 02:45, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Places this article has been used

Anyone noticed any more?

• Castleton Gabriels' programme for their match against FC (no attribution)
• French football website (attribution given for a map they used)

Image:Yemen flag large.png CTOAGN (talk) 01:50, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] POV

The use of the word "exorbitant" is POV, in my opinion, so I changed it to "high". --71.225.229.151 01:57, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

Sounds fine to me, but do you have some very strong child-protection software on the computer you're using? One of your edits changed "before playing" to "be ing" in someone else's comment above.[2] It looks like it was trying to censor the word "foreplay" from your edit. Image:Yemen flag large.png CTOAGN (talk) 02:42, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Hostile takeover

I put the phrase "hostile takeover" back into the article. A hostile takeover is one in which the takeover occurs against the wishes of a company's management - see [3]. As the United board advised shareholders not to sell to the Glazers up until the time when he took control of the club, I think its use here is justified. Image:Yemen flag large.png CTOAGN (talk) 04:57, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Giving players their own articles

This is not a good idea for the following reasons:

• Recent AFDs for articles on non-league players have seen them deleted or merged back into the article, so it's likely to be a waste of time.
• All of the player sections are short, so it's better to keep them together. Someone who looks up one of these players is likely to be interested in others, so they might as well be near each other.
• The article is not too long as it is.

Also, the user who has been making these changes (User:Kingjeff) has been annoying everyone at WikiProject Football for the last week or two, so I suspect the changes are not being made in good faith. If you notice any of the players' articles being split out, please change the new articles to redirect back here. If any part of this article is blanked, please revert it and issue vandalism warnings as appropriate. Thanks, CTOAGN (talk) 22:36, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

The fact that you have to use me in your arguement means it's very weak. Kingjeff 22:38, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Player list

The players list badly needs to be brought up to the Wikipedia standards. SteelyDave 02:12, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

It could do with being more encyclopaedic, as a lot of it was written by people who don't contribute often. Anything else in particular that you think should be done? CTOAGN (talk) 18:52, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

I think we may have more detail on the current players list than is warranted at this stage. What do you think? StripeyBadger 18:33, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

I really think we need to revisit the idea of former players now - too many have now left to make continuing this viable in the long-run - I suggest we edit this out. Additionally, the recent addition of appereances is in violation of what wikipedia is mean to be - not fan cruft Steve-Ho 20:56, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Player lists of any description at this level (Level 9 remember) is way over the top. Remember this isn't a FCUM fansite, it is a general encyclopedia. - fchd 20:58, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Now edited the player profiles - shortened somewhat and wikified Steve-Ho 09:21, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

I have removed the player profiles - as has been pointed out above the player profiles for these players - level 9 of the league structure is way over the top. Profiles like this are available at fansites and on the official webiste, or could be if people wanted them to be - I have tidied this up into a table of current players as with most league and non-league club entries. There didn't seem to be too much argument from people on this talk page when it has been discussed before so hopefully this won't be too contentious. The content can always be used if a player gets famous in the future. Steve-Ho 14:00, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Former Players

I've added a importance query to this section - it's my view that this section does not meet wikipedia's criteria for inclusion. I'd welcome a debate and I propose we delete this section in it's entirity. Steve-Ho 12:05, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

I think this section should go and perhaps only be revived if a former FC player goes on to top flight football or becomes notable in some other field. StripeyBadger 10:51, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

now removed given the defining silence. I've kept a copy archived in case anyone becomes noteworthy in the future. Steve-Ho 16:53, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Not a news page.

There is far too much detail on matches on this page - you can create a separate article on the 2006/7 season if you like, but it shouldn't be on the main article. I know FCUM are a new club, but this must conform to the same standards of other clubs. Why not expand more on the culture and impact that FCUM have had on the game in the area, rather than results? Have a look here for more details, and see if you can help out with this or other articles. I've created a FC United of Manchester Season 2005-06 article, someone could do the same for the 2006-7 season? - Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Non-league football --Gavinio 14:01, 28 November 2006 (UTC)