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[edit] Vandalism

There are wiki articles on various communities of India belonging to different states and linguistic backgrounds. Nowhere else do I see this level of intolerance as the communities of Kerala. As a member of Ezhava community, I am miffed at seeing the edits by certain individuals that attempt to belittle, marginalize and defame the community and vandalize the document in general.

Is that a problem with people like Thankachan Pappachan that they cannot be tolerant of others? Wouldn't a little bit of broad mindedness and mental growth good for every one?

Enna okkeyadaa ezhuthi vachiriykunne? Loka mahaa puluvanmaaare? Aromal chekavaru ezhavanannu aaraada ninnodu paranje? ithenthoram nonaya? Ennathinadaa ingane nona paranju valyaalavunne? Ezhavare ividittu odichu thallukarunnilyo? Athalyo sathyam? Athangottu paranjaal ennathaada oru korachilu?Kochu Thomman Kottappadi 08:52, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

It is a widely known fact that Aaromal Chekavar and Unniyarcha were Ezhavas. For a reference, see Malayalam Encyclopedia, Sarvavijnjana Kosham Volume 4(volume starting with "Ee").

This man has surfaced again. It's easy to make out that ""Kochu Thomman"" is not a Christian. I Thought he understood his mistake when he deleted his prior post. But he is repeating the same. Please check out Wikipedia:Civility - Panikkar

He could be anything. Why do you say he is not Christian?

Here is the previous post from him which he deleted later Potteda makkale , Pottu. Veruthe Videdey. Onnuvillelum avammaru mamodeesaa mungiya ezhavaralyo? margam koodiyavaralyo?Kochu Thomman Kottappadi 11:56, 23 February 2007 (UTC). Do you expect such words from a Christian who claims to be the descendant of nambuthiris? Whatever community he belongs to, he is here to vandalize the article. Panikkar

How can you be certain?He may be trying sarcasm. Majority of the christians areEzhavas.There was a spurt in numbers after mass conversion by missionaries. There are records to prove this.But there is no evidence that any Christian was originally a Nambuthiri.It is a lie propagated by the church.Nambuthiris had strict rules. Many nambuthiri women were turned out of their home for flimsy reasons. Sometimes these cast-away women were sold to merchants.Who were these merchants?They were none other than rich christians. They wished to better their race.For example ,consider Sheela , former film actress. Sheela is a catholic from Trichur.Sheela's grandmother was a Nambuthiri woman, the notorious Kuriyedathu Thathri.She had to leave home because of Bhrashtu. A Christian from Trichur married her. Her daughter was married to Antony, an Anglo Indian . (Rail Engine Driver).Sheela or Sheela Celine is Antony's daughter. There may be many such cases. Because there were many cases of Bhrashtu. Apart from this, there is no Nambuthiri blood in Syrian Christians. Perhaps some more people were forced to convert during Foriegn rule. Ajilal 08:42, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Halle, nee kollavalloda kochane? Ithenna kandupidithavaada? Neeyaannoda Thomas Ajilalva Edison? Eee kathayokke evidunnu kittiyeda ninakku? Appol..ividuthe kaasholla mothalalimaarokke nazraanikalaarunnu. Ivalumare okke kettunnatharunnu, Nazraanikade pradhaana paripadi, alyo?Pinnethaandu recordo guinnesso ondennu parennondallo? Evidaada ee recordokke? Eee jnaanoodonnu kandotte. Pinne?Vere enna okke ondu? Onnu paranjaatte, Ajilaale.Kochu Thomman Kottappadi 09:53, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

The Namboothiri theory is the result of an effort to gain social respect. Indians have a symbolistic culture, where you need to align with symbols of ancient practices or foreign cultures to feel good. My theory! Anyway this is interesting, the Sheela story. Now, this article is about Ezhava, a community of people in Kerala. The history of other people is not relevant here. Even Ezhava history itself needs to be summarized neatly and not in great detail as we need to provide information about the community today in this article. We need to create another article/articles for other topics and purposes.

ORU JAATI , ORU MATHAM, ORU DAIVAM MANUSHYANU - Forget this not. 59.93.222.166

What is your point? Everyone knows about the Guru's vision. However all people needs to understand it. The discussions here are about the slander and intolerance some men show towards Ezhavas. Don't we need to respond? May be you need to advice us the teachings that no one follows. "If they slap on one cheek, show the other". Nice try. Unni1

Please sign you posts Panikkar

As Unni rightly said Guru's vision is not restricted to any community nor it's a rule. This article is about the Ezhava community and not about the teachings of Sri Narayana Guru. About "Oru jaathi....", don't take it in literal sense. Caste is a reality in our society and it's almost impossible to destroy it. So live with it.. But consider all castes as equal and respect each other to reduce communal tensions. Panikkar