Talk:Experimental Safety Vehicle

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Article created by non-native english speaker. Grammar corrections welcome.Randroide 18:01, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] ESV not an acronym

An acronym is a (pronouncable) word comprised of letters from the term abbreviated. It's not clear if "bacronym" should apply here, but since the bacronym page (currently) includes "IBM", we'll let it stand for now.

--Otheus 12:20, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Uh. I lost the "pronounceable" part in the English definition. In Spanish even something as hopelessly unpronouncable as HMMWV is an "acrónimo".

The external source for the backronym case is listed at Backronym#Replacement. Randroide 12:56, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

It's a common error to mix up the two. For instance, "TLA" is sometimes known to stand for "Three Letter Acronym", but no one says TLA, they say, "T-L-A". Is there no other term in Spanish? --Otheus 14:10, 6 March 2007 (UTC) ($)

I see the point. AFAIK all are "acronyms" in Spanish.

What about the rest of the article?. Any other error?.Randroide 17:25, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Sadly, english is without a 3rd-person possessive pronoun. Sometimes "whose" is used, and I would have used it in this case, but it would then become unclear if the goal of vehicle safety was the DOT's or the ESV program's. So I used the formal-sounding "the aim of which" to denote it's the aim of the ESV program.

And another question. The lead sentence: "Experimental Safety Vehicle (ESV) is the designation for experimental concept cars used to test car safety ideas." Does ESV refer to the safety ideas or to the concept cars? Currently it is a bit ambiguous. See the article garden path sentence and Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo. --Otheus 17:39, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

PS. I rewrote the backronym article to reflect the duality of its nature. It was "better" than removing your link to it. Perhaps not as easy, but better. ;) --Otheus 00:49, 7 March 2007 (UTC) ($)

ESV refers to the concept cars.

He, he. I agree with that is better to rewrite than to delete. Thank you. Randroide 09:25, 7 March 2007 (UTC)