Talk:Ever17

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Contents 1 Concerning spoilers 2 Future edits 3 You's name 4 You's CV 5 Same universe? 6 Takeshi's and Kid's CVs

[edit] Concerning spoilers

Welcome to the Ever17 page. The only real rule is "No Spoilers". The story is the most important part of the game (since most of the content is in text). Therefore, please have some courtesy to the developer and to future players. The infobox is the CVG template, for lack of an infobox template specifically designed for visual novel games. Cheers. -- nephilim 04:46, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

After thinking it over some more, some little things about the characters could be spoiled... say, that Sora is an RSD image, but nothing along the lines of Kid's name. pretty much, restrict as much information about the characters as possible. --nephilim 21:19, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

Everything can and should be spoiled, because an enciclopedia is supposed to cover stuff in depth. Having a spoiler warning is more than enough; people who don't want to be spoiled will just follow the warning.-- Roc Vallès^Talk|Hist - 10:18, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

I'm planning on writing a few paragraphs explaining the backstory - nothing too "crufty", just something that would enable people who haven't played the game to understand what people that have played are talking about. I'll probably start in a day or two. It will probably be a sub-section of "plot", marked off with spoiler tags. --Mercercounty 01:19, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Can someone comment on my summary? I tried to cover only the basics of how the characters relate to each other with a minimum of specifics. It should be useful both for someone who doesn't want to play the game to get a general idea of what the story is like and for someone who just played it to "compare notes". --Mercercounty 04:35, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

Just read this page for the first time, and I think the spoilers in the "detail" section go too far. Just saying that the two scenarios are 17 years apart is a major plot point and this is in the first line, thus easily read even by people who don't want to read the spoiler section. This game is easily ruined by revealing the plot too early, and anyone seeing this would essentially have their game play ruined. Being thorough is good but does the article need such a... complete spoiler section? Could it be made smaller or moved off into a seperate article? 194.80.32.8 16:35, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

There are spoiler warnings. Obviously, Ever17 is a bit different from most games, in that spoiling it beforehand would greatly reduce your enjoyment of it, but the warnings are there. Perhaps some sort of warning in the article's text would be appropriate as well, though. Moogy^(talk) 19:09, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Future edits

Oh geez, I'll let the updates go until Saturday, July 15, 2006, then I'm gonna go through it all for consistency and style. Thanks for the contributions. --nephilim 13:23, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

I'm all for making the article more consistent, but as for the "style", keep it within wikipedia standards and don't stray far from that. 十八 05:50, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] You's name

Yes, there are decent spoilers below. I recommend not reading if you haven't finished Coco's path.

Is there a reason Youbiseiharukana Tanaka is listed rather than just You Tanaka, given that one of them is Youbiseiakikana Tanaka? I think there might also be an issue with "She is also initially quite distrustful of the rest of the group." for Tsugumi, since, unless I'm remembering incorrectly, this only happens in 2034. --Mercercounty 02:07, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Probably because that's how it is in the playing manual.--Mikeats 17:39, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Hmmm. Would you object if I changed it to You Tanaka? It's more correct and doesn't spoil anything. I'd need the Japanese character though - would it just be one of the kana for Yu, or is it more complicated? --Mercercounty 06:09, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] You's CV

According to the opening and ending, You's voice is done by Noriko Shimoya, not Noriko Shitaya. Are these different people, is one a pseudonym, or is one a typo? --Mercercounty 15:25, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Noriko Shitaya is correct. Shimoya is an alternate way of reading 下屋 - whoever did the translation must've read it wrong.--Mikeats 16:49, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Same universe?

I can't find any info on Memories Off being in the same universe as Ever17. Can someone post a link? Or better yet, put in a reference?--Mikeats 17:59, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

I added a "citation needed" tag. --Mercercounty 04:35, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

It's not solid evidence, but when asked for a name, Kid may suggest a name from a list, a few of them being the names of main characters in Memories Off. The timeline at the end included the events of Never7, which had more references to Memories Off.Roanhammer 22:00, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Takeshi's and Kid's CVs

Is it really a spoiler that they're both played by the same person? Certainly there can be two unrelated characters that are played by the same person, simply because that person has a talented voice? And actually here it's three different people all being played by one. It doesn't seem to be so much a spoiler as a hint at a possible spoiler - but I won't remove the spoiler tag, since Mikeats thinks it is enough for the tag. --Mercercounty 06:09, 25 October 2006 (UTC)