Image talk:Evanescence 1.jpg
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[edit] Fair use disputed
- A free image couldn't be created to replace it. If don't you think so, then search a free image everywhere you want, or tell me where I can found it.
- The image ilustrates the gothic/alternative/pop band Evanescence.
- The resolution of the image is low.
- The image has previously been published.
- The image will be used on the Evanescence article.
- It is a significant photo of a famous group of individuals.
- The photo is only being used for informational purposes.
- Its inclusion in the article adds significantly to the article because it shows the subject of this article.
- Wind-Up Records won't be financially stricken by adding this picture to Evanescence. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Eacz12 (talk • contribs) .
Failed - I think it ultimately comes down to asking "Could an image of this subject exist?" The answer is yes. It's a very public band and has been so for many years. They're seen and noticed by hundreds and thousands of people time after time. It's very possible a free use image could exist. Just because one can't be found by an editor does not mean it doesn't exist at all. For the simple fact of how popular and public this band is, it makes any fair use image of her a failed fair use image due to first criterion. Roguegeek (talk) 01:42, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
Comment - Per a discussion at Talk:Evanescence, a concensus was arrived at, whereby a single FU image might be used. It would be significantly difficult to otherwise obtain a free image where all or most band members were represented, given that concert photos are of unusable quality (and often not possible to take), and finding the band "on-the-street" and taking a photo would be improbable. While it may be possible to eventually find a free photo, the use of this freely distributed promo photo seems to be admissable as a short-term solution.
I request an admin to comment about this issue, either on the above-mentioned talk page, or message me to discuss and better understand the issue and policy. If this particular photo is not usable in particular, but another would be, I welcome a suggestion as to what to use. -- Huntster T • @ • C 02:21, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
- I am going to process this as a "delete", and here is why: Huntster is correct in arguing that a good free image of the band will be difficult to obtain. The argument that using the promo photo as a short term solution is acceptable, however, runs afoul of Wikipedia policy. Ultimately, since we aim to have as much free content as possible, we would rather have a decent free image than a great fair use image. The problem with using a fair use image as a "placeholder" or sorts is that said placeholder tends not to get replaced; since the article already has a nice image, there isn't much of an incentive for people to go asking to have one released, or to go take one themselves. By removing the image, we create this incentive; and it actually does work in many cases. Images deleted under this policy have been replaced with surprising speed in some cases, and I have on many occasions clicked on an image of a person, band, or vehicle thinking that something so professional looking must be a fair use image only to find to my surprise that it is actually freely licensed.
- As to what to use, well, sometimes no image is appropriate at the current moment. This can be frustrating, but it is possible to write a great article without an image. It looks like roguegeek is asking for an image to be released; that is a great approach to use, as is trying to take a photo of the band at a show. --RobthTalk 20:37, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
