Template talk:Europe topic

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1 Examples in use
2 Remote islands
3 Link in title
4 Variant
- 4.1 Merge proposal
5 Template name
6 Turkish Nationalist Vandalism
7 Kazakhstan?
8 Cyprus in SW Asia?
9 European Union
10 "the"
11 Kaliningrad?
12 Greece
13 Ireland

[edit] Examples in use

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Architecture of Europe

Albania · Andorra · Armenia² · Austria · Azerbaijan⁴ · Belarus · Belgium · Bosnia and Herzegovina · Bulgaria · Croatia · Cyprus² · Czech Republic · Denmark · Estonia · Finland · France · Georgia⁴ · Germany · Greece · Hungary · Iceland · Ireland · Italy · Kazakhstan¹ · Latvia · Liechtenstein · Lithuania · Luxembourg · Republic of Macedonia · Malta · Moldova · Monaco · Montenegro · Netherlands · Norway · Poland · Portugal · Romania · Russia¹ · San Marino · Serbia · Slovakia · Slovenia · Spain · Sweden · Switzerland · Turkey¹ · Ukraine · United Kingdom

Dependencies, autonomies and other territories
Abkhazia⁴ · Adjara² · Åland · Azores · Akrotiri and Dhekelia · Crimea · Faroe Islands · Gibraltar · Guernsey · Isle of Man · Jersey · Kosovo · Madeira · Nagorno-Karabakh² · Nakhichevan² · Transnistria · Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus^2, 3

¹ Has significant territory in Asia. ² Entirely in West Asia, but considered European for cultural, political and historical reasons. ³ Only recognised by Turkey. ⁴ Partially or entirely in Asia, depending on the definition of the border between Europe and Asia.

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Civil unions in Europe

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Culture of Europe

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Demographics of Europe

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Economy of Europe

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Extreme points of Europe

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Foreign relations of Europe

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Geography of Europe

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Gay rights in Europe

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History of Europe

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History of the Jews in Europe

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Human rights in Europe

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Islam in Europe

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Languages of Europe

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List of airports in Europe

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List of political parties in Europe

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Music of Europe

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Orthodoxy in Europe

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Politics of Europe

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Public holidays in Europe

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Religion in Europe

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Roman Catholicism in Europe

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Security issues in Europe

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Tourism in Europe

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Transport in Europe

[edit] Remote islands

While I appreciate the inclusion of places such as Jan Mayen and Svalbard, I am not sure it makes sense. For example, there will be never be an article about the architecture of Jan Mayen - it is a largely uninhabited possession of Norway's.--Leifern 05:15, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

The islands are those linked to from Template:Europe. While there is unlikely to be an article on the architecture of Jan Mayen, there is for example an article on the History of Svalbard. If there's not enough to say on a particular topic to merit an article, it should become a redirect to the article where it is covered - so, for example, architecture of Jan Mayen could redirect to Jan Mayen. Warofdreams talk 01:07, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
- Actually it's not that obvious that there should not eventually be an article on architecture of Jan Mayen -- there are specialized buildings there (research station; power plant), and a history of adaptive building for structures no longer in use. -- Mareklug ^talk 00:45, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

Akrotiri and Dhekelia has a dead link in all but one of the above examples (Demographics), and that link simply points to the Akrotiri and Dhekelia article itself... Relevance of Foreign relations of Akrotiri and Dhekelia, anyone? (what I am trying to say is that I agree with te first poster here) Jørgen 20:49, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

A good point is wether or not Svalbard and Jan Mayen are dependencies or territories at all. Officially they are both integral parts of Norway just as much as other parts of Norway. They do not fall into the same category as these other listings. The History of Svalbard article is at present about half the lenght of what would be an apropriate history section in the article Svalbard so it should be merged into that article pending the eventuality that someone will write a lot more. If someone should feel the urge to write about Jan Mayen architecture they should in any case start on the Jan Mayen page and only create a separate article if that section becomes too long. Most of these topics will never be any more than a redirect or a statement that the topic is the same as in the rest of Norway and dealt with in the Norway article. But the bottom line remains: These two are not dependencies, territories, non-self-governing entities or any other such category.Inge 12:53, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

Jan Mayen is part of NordlandCounty. Inge 12:59, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Link in title

I think it is not a good idea that this template links its title automatically. At the point of transclusion, it would be easy to provide the second parameter with the enclosing square brackets, whereas the current version creates redlinks to articles that don't exist, and probably never will (like Coats of arms of Europe, List of airports in Europe, Security issues in Europe, etc.) K issL (don't forget to vote!) 12:12, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

Not sure why the second two wouldn't exist, but I've found that in the large majority of cases, the automatic linking is exactly what is desired. In the few cases where it isn't, the second parameter allows the title to easily be replaced. Warofdreams talk 03:14, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Variant

I've created a variant {{Europe in topic2}} for Buddhism in Europe that doesn't include the Vatican or dependencies and territories. Addhoc 14:52, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Why not just redirect Buddhism in the Vatican City to Vatican City, which will explain the religious situation to anyone not already familiar with it? Similar redirects could be made to the national article or to Religion in... for the other dependencies and territories, should they not merit an article. Warofdreams talk 04:19, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Merge proposal

I've proposed merging Template:Europe in topic2 in. Having two templates doing the same job makes them more difficult to maintain. Should someone find it essential to omit the microstates from a this template in a particular use, we could look at having an argument which does that. Warofdreams talk 20:47, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Have amended {{Europe topic}} to:
1. omit Vatican City if "Topic in/of Vatican City" doesn't exist;
2. omit the dependencies etc if the parameter countries_only instantiated.

Currently Islam in Spain the only article using the latter. If these amendments okay, perhaps they remove the need for {{Europe in topic2}} and {{Europe in topic3}} and any other forks...? Regards, David Kernow (talk) 00:40, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Hadn't even seen Europe in topic3. Great work on the template! Warofdreams talk 04:50, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks! Have now added the countries_only option to the other continent-topic templates that include territories and mentioned this facility here. Yours, David (talk) 01:42, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Template name

Per here, would anyone object to this template being renamed {{Europe topic}}, thereby leaving the of/in specified by its parameter (e.g. {{Europe topic|Communications in}}, {{Europe topic|Economy of}}, etc)...? Regards, David Kernow (talk) 02:50, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Turkish Nationalist Vandalism

Please keep an eye for insertions of the unrecognized turkish invased region of cyprus. It's ilegal according to international lawand completely unrecognized. Turkish nationalist extremists keep inserting it.

[edit] Kazakhstan?

Since when is this country in Europe??? 89.137.36.86 18:03, 3 December 2006 (UTC) (ES Vic)

It has a small amount of territory in Europe. See the archives of template talk:Europe. Warofdreams talk 20:43, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

it has some patches of steppe west of the Ural river. This can be discussed on Transcontinental country, but certainly isn't a reason to list Kazakhstan in this template. Give us a break. dab (𒁳) 10:25, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

If part of it is in Europe, it should be listed here, with an apropriate disclaimer. Just because it doesn't fit with one's subjective map of the world isn't a reason to exclude it from an objective list. --ScottMainwaring 16:35, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

I think Kazakhstan is always grouped with other European countries in sports, as is Israel which isn't listed here. Wikipeditor 01:32, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Cyprus in SW Asia?

Last time I checked, it was in the Mediterranean. EamonnPKeane 22:49, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] European Union

Could we provide a switch so the supranational entity the european union can be switched off? I can envision and article about the Architecture of Europe - ie the templates title, but this would only duplicate information within Architecture of the European Union. --Mcginnly | Natter 17:40, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

This doesn't seem to fit with the idea of the template at all, so I've removed it. Warofdreams talk 18:01, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] "the"

A couple of people have been removing "the" from links. Please don't do this, as it breaks most of them. While you may be looking at a specific use of this template where it is not needed, in most cases it is. Warofdreams talk 17:16, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Kaliningrad?

Currently useless for navigation except for {{Europe topic|Administrative divisions of}} and {{Europe topic|List of settlements in}}, as we only have Administrative divisions of Kaliningrad Oblast and List of settlements in Kaliningrad Oblast. Wikipeditor 01:29, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Greece

Should Greece be marked as having a portion (4.6%) of its territory in Asia (as per Transcontinental country#Countries in both Asia and Europe)? --Kimon 14:21, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ireland

Both the Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland directed to .....Ireland - I've kept the republic as just Ireland and fixed the link to Northern ireland. [1] --Joopercoopers 17:55, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Examples in use

[edit] Remote islands

[edit] Link in title

[edit] Variant

[edit] Merge proposal

[edit] Template name

[edit] Turkish Nationalist Vandalism

[edit] Kazakhstan?

[edit] Cyprus in SW Asia?

[edit] European Union

[edit] "the"

[edit] Kaliningrad?

[edit] Greece

[edit] Ireland

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