Talk:Europlug

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[edit] rewirable europlugs?

I'm sure, I've seen suppliers selling rewirable europlugs, though I don't have a link handy right now. And you can definately buy flexes with europlugs at one end and bare wires the other. Plugwash 17:56, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

What designers and standards committees had originally in mind, and what the free market sells, are often two very different stories. I can buy USB A-A and B-B adapter cables in many shops, even though the USB standard explicitely forbids them, and there is really no sensible application for them. If the customer asks for it, someone will sell it, whether it technically makes sense or not. Markus Kuhn 10:22, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] europlug variant with solid pins

it seems there is a plug in use in brazil (and possiblly other places?) which has solid pins but is otherwise identical to the europlug does this deserve a mention here and does anyone have any more info on it? Plugwash 16:33, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I think this photo does not show a europlug (pins look too parallel and too thick). It looks more like a variant of the swiss or IEC 60906-1 [1] 2-pin plug to me. But it is difficult to distinguish them on a small photo without having one in one's hand to measure pin diameter and distance with a caliper. There are at least half a dozen different plugs with two round pins in use worldwide. Do you have access to a copy of IEC/TR 60083:2004? Markus Kuhn 08:21, 15 July 2005 (UTC)

I followed the link you gave but that didn't seem to give any detail on how the modern europlug differed from the IEC 60906-1 standard. Plugwash 20:09, 15 July 2005 (UTC)

The IEC 60906-1 2-pin plug is designed for 16 A, the europlug only for 2.5 A. The europlug has thinner pins that are not parallel.

The right-hand plug in that picture is the same as I have on a Brazilian-made radio. While lacking the "safety features" of the genuine Europlug, the two are compatible in sockets designed for the Europlug. In fact, this thing was an older variant of non-earthed plug (albeit with a rounded face) that was commonly used in Europe in the early-mid 20th Century, before the Europlug was developed. Stephanie Weil 19:28, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Comments moved from article

There are BS 1363-style sockets on the market that have a europlug-compatible alternative child-safety mechanism. Their shutter permits only the simultaneous insertion of a live and neutral pin and does not require the insertion of an earth pin.

are theese the mk ones or something else? unfortunately i don't have any europlugs at the same places i have the mk sockets to try it. i doubt a manufacturer would deliberately make thier sockets like this because of the fusing issue. i'm commenting out this paragraph until this is clarified. Plugwash 02:10, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I'v not seen a socket which allows a British or a Europlug, but do have a shaver adaptor(British plug with a combined american/europlug socket on the back) which has shutters which only open when a pin is in each hole. boffy_b 23:09, July 14, 2005 (UTC)

do you have any mk sockets handy? (i don't have any handy right now) and if so can you confirm if europlugs will enter thier shutters or not. i know they don't use the earth pin. Plugwash 22:07, 15 July 2005 (UTC)

(Just after the mention of converter plugs) I'm sure they are larger than a normal british plug. does the BS1363 standard actually state maximum body dimensions? Plugwash 02:18, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I'v seen a few of these, they'r not much bigger than a normal plug, much less chunky than an avaerage transformer plug. boffy_b 23:09, July 14, 2005 (UTC)

yep they are deffinately smaller than wall warts but deffinately bigger than most normal plugs. the original question about if there is any standard size still remains though. Plugwash