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Correction: Lluis Companys was not imprisoned in 1934 by Franco's Regime. Among other reasons, Spanish Civil War didn't start until 18th July 1936 and wasn't won by the General's Nationalists until 1st April 1939.

General Franco, then at service for the Republic, was indeed responsible of the repression the leftist insurrection in Asturias, which was also a protest again the entrance of right-wing CEDA (Spanish Confederation of Autonomous Right-Wingers) ministers into the Spanish government.

ERC is a Spanish political party of Catalonia, therefore the Spanish template must be considered. User:Coco may be doing apology of terrorism.

1 Carod-Rovira talks with ETA
2 ERC-supported government in Catalonia establishes censorship laws! Freedom of speech is being abolished
3 Name change
4 Recent mods.

[edit] Carod-Rovira talks with ETA

Can anyone explain why the mention of Carod-Rovira's talks with ETA was deleted??? Wasn't that the reason for him resigning??? Or is Wiki supposed to portray only the positive part of a person? Then it shouldn't be called "encyclopeida" but "public relations leaflet"

Because that is already in Josep-Lluís Carod-Rovira entry. I do not think it should be included here, but more specific info of the party Toniher 12:31, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] ERC-supported government in Catalonia establishes censorship laws! Freedom of speech is being abolished

The hand of Catalonia's infamous "CAC" (Catalonian Audiovisual Committee) is also reaching the internet!! Whatever news goes against the interests of the Catalan government is being eliminated.

Read the words of E. Markham Bench, the Executive Director of The World Press Freedom Committee writing to Mr Maragall and Ernest Branach the speaker of the Catalan Parliament. This letter is located at http://www.wpfc.org/Protests.html:

December 23, 2005

His Excellency Pasqual Magarall i Mira President Generalitat of Catalonia Plaça de Sant Jaume, 4 (Palau de la Generalitat) 08002 Barcelona, Spain

His Excellency Ernest Benach Chairman Parliament of Catalonia Parc de la Ciutadella, s/n 08003 Barcelona, Spain

Your Excellencies:

On behalf of the World Press Freedom Committee, an organization representing 45 press freedom groups in six continents, I wish to express my consternation for the “report” by the Catalan Audiovisual Committee (CAC) in which, under the guise of an alleged moral authority, uses an arbitrary mandate in an attempt to censor and silence the opinions of a whole radio network.

CAC —a censoring entity established in September by the Regional Parliament of Catalonia in order to detect “untruthful information”— had already recommended, a day after its inception, to revoke the broadcasting license of the COPE network for “exceeding the limits of freedom of speech.” On Dec. 20, the CAC report accused the network of failing to fulfill “its prerequisites of constitutional veracity.”

Further, this entity —unique in Western Europe and the European Union, which offers perhaps the world’s most exemplary press freedom environment— concluded that COPE fails to meet its journalistic and editorial duties, calling its opinions “most grave accusations,” “insulting” and “public humiliations.”

Regardless of the veracity or “insulting” intentions of the network’s speech, we find unjustifiable that a state entity, bestowed with censoring powers typical of painful autocratic regimes of the past, be the arbiter of the behavior of a media outlet. COPE or any other media outlet in Spain has every right to express their opinions in an atmosphere of liberty consecrated in the Spanish Constitution.

The mere existence of CAC is in direct contradiction with the democratic and freedom of expression norms adopted by the European Union, the European Court of Human Rights and the vast majority of the world’s democracies. In fact, we have not seen anything similar to this ever since the Franco dictatorship’s censoring committees, which, with extraordinary zeal, controlled the country’s media for almost 40 years.

CAC is not a court of justice but a political body controlled by the ruling majority of the Catalonian Parliament. As such, it is neither independent of political considerations nor equipped with the procedural mechanisms required to offer an accused party a fair trial when charged. It just happens that COPE’s opinions are in opposition to the political goals of such a parliamentary majority. The political antagonism of both entities, in a true democracy, should not bear any relevance. What we find extremely grave is the fact that a government — whether it is national, regional or local— abuses the power emanating from its constituents in order to silence the voices that such a government finds strident or uncomfortable.

It is unacceptable that a censoring organ should receive the blessings of a democratic parliament in order to outright silence a media outlet.

Therefore, I urge the Catalan judicial power to dismiss the CAC calls to revoke COPE’s license, and the Catalan Parliament and the Generalitat to take the appropriate measures in order to dismantle CAC, and thus adhering to international norms of freedom of expression and of the press.

Respectfully,

E. Markham Bench, Executive Director World Press Freedom Committee

I don't know who represents this "freedom comittee", but the Generalitat and the Parliament of Catalonia are fully legitimate democratic elected institutions. Of course, the CAC is controlled by the Parliament, and submited to Catalan, Spanish and EU laws. This guarantees its democratic behaviuor. I dont't know a best way to control such an entity, do you?.

Similar entities are established in most countries, in order to asign frequencies and regulate the market. Of course CAC is not a court. This letter is a protest against a mere report.

Your references on CAC as a "censoring entity" are biased. Your comparisons to Franco dictatorship are biased and offensive. Your publication here of such a letter is a biased act, with the intention of damaging these institutions. Your publication here of such a letter is a biased act, since its an individual opinion, and this is not a forum. This is an enciclopaedia, not a place for opinions, but for facts. --Joan sense nick 10:05, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

- Exactly. Your references on CAC are biased, and you should not publish it here, but in a forum. Wether someone agrees or not with the CAC is not important. It´s about facts, not opinion.

Navarra government also has an audiovisual council with the same competencies than CAC and nobody says anything to stop it. It has existed since 1999. You can see it in http://www.consejoaudiovisualdenavarra.es/ --SMP - talk page (en) - talk page (ca) 16:10, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Name change

We could change the article's title to Esquerra Republicana de Catalunya and explain the meaning in the introduction. Anyway a redirect with Republican Left of Catalonia can be left. This would be consistent with other changes, like Convergència i Unió, another catalan party. --Francisco Valverde 19:29, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

I agree. Moved --Twenex 11:17, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Do you all agree? We should have a consensus... I believe proper names shouldn't be translated. --Francisco Valverde 14:36, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

English Wikipedia policy is to translate organization names into English, unless another name is more commonly used in English media. Thus it would be weird to move Sinn Fein to "We Ourselves", but I can't see that ERC would constitute a special case. --Soman 15:01, 23 May 2006 (UTC)