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Contents 1 Article Name 2 Recent Suspect 3 Merge Opinion 4 NASA UAV Fire Mapping

[edit] Article Name

Does anyone know why the article title was changed from Esperanza Fire to Esperanza Fires of October 2006? It refers to one fire, not several and there has never been another Esperanza Fire to the best of my knowledge so I am unsure why they added the date qualifier. Thanks, Daysleeper47 16:27, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Beats me. All the local news outlets are referring to it as the "Esperanza Fire." I may switch it back. I typed in "esperanza fire" to get here. I wouldn't have typed in "Esperanza Fires of October 2006" in a lifetime of trying. It's one big fire complex. - Lucky 6.9 23:44, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Recent Suspect

I recently added the news about the Riverside Sheriff Department arrest of a suspect with a citation link to the article.¤~Persian Poet Gal ^(talk) 21:28, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

I found his name in another article and have added it here. for the record the article is Raymond Lee Oyler--Acebrock 21:33, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

• Thanks good work.¤~Persian Poet Gal ^(talk) 21:45, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

• I also recently added the information about the two people who were questioned and released previously on Monday.¤~Persian Poet Gal ^(talk) 03:07, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

• Olyer has now been officially charged. I have updated with the recent news.¤~Persian Poet Gal ^(talk) 19:24, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Merge Opinion

I recently noticed Acebrock's merge box for the Raymond Lee Oyler page. Considering how short the article is I support a merge of the article to this one.¤~Persian Poet Gal ^(talk) 21:32, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

• Merge away! No need for two seperate articles here...--Daysleeper47 01:36, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

• • Discussion from the Raymond Lee Oyler Article:

Mr. Oyler is hardly deserving of his own article but, in regards to the Esperanza Fire he is extremely notable and I feel it's worth merging his article into that one. after a week, whichever way the consensus goes, I'll take the appropriate action.--—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Acebrock (talk • contribs).

• Edward4321 - No don't merge this article. This guy is certainly important enough to have his article. He is suspected of murdering 5 firefighters and destroying millions of dollars of homes. And his trial and even possible execution will make news again outside of the fire. This guy is certainly far more important than Scott Peterson who has his own article.

• • (originally posted on Talk:Raymond Lee Oyler) I'm going to have to change my vote to no. He's been named a suspect in the Old Fire and this article will do no good as a redirect to Esperanza Fire, especially if he's charged--Acebrock 01:01, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

• • Update:After a week, the general concensus is that the articles NOT be merged. I am okay with that, especially after Oyler's possible involvement in the Old Fire. I have removed the merge request. If someone would like additional comments, please feel free to put it back but I don't feel it is necessary.--Daysleeper47 18:51, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] NASA UAV Fire Mapping

68.233.140.65 05:07, 5 December 2006 (UTC) Adding a single line about it, and links to two sources. 12/4/06. The section definitly needs work.