Talk:Esalen Institute

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[edit] Inside view

I have spent time at Esalen, and this page needs major, major work. It should be a much longer, more thorough article. I wonder if someone at Esalen can do a draft? --Brw12 16:48, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

Certainly more information would be welcome. However, keep in mind that Wikipedia attempts to adhere to a neutral point of view (NPOV). If edits are made which make unsubstantiated claims or attempt to cast Esalen in a light which is not purely factual, expect other editors to voice concern and/or edit down the article until it adheres to NPOV standards.

Good luck, and happy editing! -Harmil 18:00, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

Edits made via Esalen User:david.price

[edit] Delete or rewrite?

The entire contents of this article have been lifted, verbatim, from http://www.esalen.org/artsfestival05/ArtsFestFacts.pdf and http://www.orgonomictherapy.com/reichian-workshops.htm. The article needs to be either completely rewritten or deleted. As it is, it doesn't adhere to NPOV. I lack the knowledge of Esalen to write a better article, but I lean a bit toward inclusion in Wikipedia, so I'd rather not delete it. I'll wait a few days or a week to see if anyone decides to rewrite it. If they don't, I'll nominate it for deletion (it's probably high time I learned how to do that, anyway). —CKA3KA (Skazka) 16:41, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

I added the Complete Rewrite template. —CKA3KA (Skazka) 16:55, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

Quite a bit has been added—principally, I think, by Goethean—since I posted my last comment, but little, if anything has been removed or rewritten. The article is still largely lifted from other web sites and reads like a promotional brochure rather than an encyclopedia article.

Hats off to you, Goethean, for taking this in hand as far as you have. As I said before, I tend slightly toward being an inclusionist so I'd prefer to see the article improved rather than deleted, even though I'm not sure, just from reading the article, that the Esalen Institute is any more notable than any other high-end spiritual retreat. However, I lack the knowledge to rewrite the article myself, and, as it is, it just doesn't seem to me to be encyclopedic.

Since I'm relatively new at this, I'm going to see if I can get any second opinions from other Wikipedians before I take any steps toward recomending the article for deletion. —CKA3KA (Skazka) 21:16, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the compliment. Esalen is definitely notable -- here's a book about it published by Indiana U Press and written by Jeffrey Kripal. I don't have much knowledge about it to contribute. It wouldn't bother me if this article was reduced to a stub and started over. — goethean ॐ 21:26, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

Rewrite attempted. All verifiable - though some aspects are, of course, subjective. I'll try to add photos later. User:david.price

This sounds very much like an advertisement for esalen. All the sources and quotations are connected esalen . Does not meet NPOV at all.

Trillian