Talk:Ernő Rubik
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What is the actual relation of Rubik to Rubik's logic and fantasy in space, also a game and puzzle journal of the early 80s? Was this simply the English language edition of És játék? -- Smjg 12:07, 23 Nov 2004 (UTC)
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[edit] List of Puzzles - in or out??
Is this really the right page for the list of puzzles? Should we list every Ford motor car under Henry Ford's entry? I would prefer to see this as a pure Biographical entry, with the list maintained separately, but I can see that has been done before, and was swiftly undone. Can anyone offer an explanation for this?
- Well, I merged it back in - I just don't think there's enough material to justify a separate page. If
it's just a simple bullet point list of puzzles, it makes sense to list it with the person who created them; the difference with Ford is that the list is rather large, and the company's progressed wuite a way without him. It's not a show-stopper either way, although I think it's a good thing to try and resist unnecessarily splitting articles. "Won't somebody think of the readers?" sjorford:// 23:58, 5 Feb 2005 (UTC)
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- I think there should be a seperate page for "Rubik's Puzzles and Games" or something like that, along with the history and evolution of the games. It doesn't quite belong at Erno Rubik or Rubik's Cube. Coffee 16:46, 2 August 2005 (UTC)
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- I totally agree with Coffee (Anan?) in this matter. Let's have a Rubik's Puzzles games and link to it from both the Rubik's Cube and the Erno Rubik page. Blonkm 00:29, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] Snake / Twist
I have reverted the name from Rubik's Twist to Rubik's Snake. Snake is the name used on rubiks.com, the official site. Also, googling for "rubik's twist" gives approx 400 results, "rubik's snake" returns about 800. I have put "also known as Twist", so people who know it as that can still find it. 82.13.223.11 13:01, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the debate was don't move. —Nightstallion (?) 13:02, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Requested move
From WP:RM:
- Talk:Ernő Rubik – Ernő Rubik → Ernö Rubik – His name is spelled with a "ö", not a "ő". — Ravi12346 21:58, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
- Oppose. All the interwikis, including hu:Rubik Ernő, spell his name like that. Are they all wrong? Kusma (討論) 01:47, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
- Oppose. Ernő is correct. (cf. Ernő Dohnányi, Ernő Gerő, Ernő László, and of course Ernő Goldfinger) LuiKhuntek 08:59, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
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- Note that not having it at Erno Laszlo is really an abuse of naming conventions; he spent his last 35 years or so in the United States as Erno Laszlo, and there ain't no squiggles in the trademark name of his cosmetics company. Gene Nygaard 01:36, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
- Comment - Source? What makes you think that it's spelt with "ö", not "ő"?
- Neither. It should be Erno Rubik, by far the most common usage in English, where Ernö or Ernő are about on par.
- AltaVista English/Spanish
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AltaVista hits "Erno Rubik" 8,860 "Erno Rubik" -Ernő -Ernö 7,780 "Ernő Rubik" 406 "Ernö Rubik" 442
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- Comment This is an encyclopaedia, not an exercise in repeating common mistakes. With redirects all common variants will point to the article anyway, so we don't need to worry about the user not finding the information. The title of the article should be whatever is correct, not what is popular. (FWIW, I'm not from Hungary, so I don't know what is the correct spelling, except as per the above note which points out the Hungarian wiki spells it "Ernő") Jamse 11:17, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
- Oppose. If the Hungarian wiki spells it Ernő, then that's probably right. Ernö is simply wrong. Erno is an understandable mistake, but a mistake nonetheless. And bollocks to web search results; Jamse is right: we should not propagate mistakes. --Stemonitis 11:32, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
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- There is absolutely no "mistake". It's simply a matter of working with different tools—a different alphabet in this case. Gene Nygaard 00:40, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
To all those who were in favour of "Erno" — diacritics should not be disregarded for convencience's sake. —Nightstallion (?) 13:02, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
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Oh, I forgot to cite my sources. These are a few: link 1, link 2, and virtually every other site in the world of speedcubing. I guess this means that everything I've seen in the last year and a half is wrong. (sigh) --Ravi12346 22:54, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
What struck me as odd was that, in 19 months of studying and solving Rubik's Cubes (often for several hours a day), I had never even seen the character "ő", much less seen it in Rubik's name. Another of my sources, this page, has a quote by Rubik himself, which, at the bottom, is signed, "Ernö RUBIK", but this may have been mistranslated and/or changed due to a visual error. His name may be spelled with a "ö" so often because "ő", as far as I can see, isn't in the ASCII table here, and "ö" is the closest character (visually) to it. --Ravi12346 23:33, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
Understandeble mistake :) The letter ő is not common and missing from the most encoding systems. Ö is easier to find, so those who used it just tried to find something similar to the original. Nevertheless the name Ernő should be written with ő. - Zita
[edit] Alleged behaviour of E. Rubik
As is said he does not attend speedcubing events. I remember from WC2003 which I attended that it was promised (or implied) by the organizers that the rewards and trophees would be handed to the winners by Mr. Rubik himself. He never showed up. Why I don't know, I don't think it was ever mentioned. He also did not attend any other speedcubing events I know of (and I've been to WC2005). Blonkm 00:38, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] According to...
According to the Rubik's Clock article he did not invent the Rubik's Clock, but this article says that he did.