Talk:Eric Pickles

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I think it was Bradford Council, not Brentwood. Needs checking. Secretlondon 17:13, Feb 1, 2004 (UTC)

That matches my recollection too. There was a Panorama program about education policy in Bradford when headmaster Ray Honeyford's assimilationist agenda was upsetting local Muslim community leaders in the early/mid 1980s. Pickles was council leader at the time. -- Alan Peakall 18:46, 18 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Bradford Council according to his website and Hansard. Now changed. Vclaw 17:45, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Anthony Murphy

The edits made to the Eric Pickles article appeared to be unbalanced, and there is a sense of POV-pushing. It made an article that read as if the most important and noteworthy thing that Eric Pickles did in Bradford was arrange for Anthony Murphy to be expelled after getting upset at a leaflet. Whilst that may be important to you personally, I suspect that the average Bradfordian (let alone the average Englishman) wouldn't recall the Murphy incident today, whereas many of the other changes made in Bradford by Pickles are still remembered, and he is nationally notable now for his Parliamentary work.

This is not an article about Anthony Murphy, it is an article about Eric Pickles. Furthermore the reason stated for the edit ('Extremely important to show all of Pickles machinations and his victims') does not suggest this is being added to promote a neutral point of view. As it currently stands the article is neither praising Pickles nor condeming him, merely listing notable biographical events. The Guardian's biography of Pickles, for example, doesn't think Murphy relevant enough to mention. (Note that The Pickles Papers is not a biography, but an account of events during a specific time-frame written from one-side. Pickles is on record as contesting many of the claims made in that publication. It also references many, many other events in Bradford during those years that aren't of much biographical account now - they are there to tell that particular story)

Mauls 17:41, 18 March 2006 (UTC).

We shall have to agree to disagree. The Murphy incident was one incident that I felt should be flagged up. An account of an individual should not necessarily be all peaches and cream, as you would possibly prefer. You appear to be saying that because it happened some time ago we should forget how appallingly he treated a loyal Conservative Partyy activist, in so far as he had him expelled not from one Tory Association but two, regardless of the years of hard work put in by that party activist to achieve Conservative Party victories. You feel that this should be kept out of his rosy little biography which, I would argue, glosses over Pickles unpleasant side and so makes it POV anyway. Sussexman 20:41, 18 March 2006 (UTC)