Talk:English Springer Spaniel

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[edit] Springer Rage Syndrome

We need to add some info on S.R.S. There was a good article in the printed magazine from http://www.avma.org/ recently

[edit] Spot Fetcher

Spot Fetcher has deceased, should there be some indication of this underneath his image on the English Springer Spaniel page? Jack 18:39, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Celtic history

Addition to the page say that legend attributes victory at Battle of Stirling Bridge in part to a spaniel, but that article says nothing about a dog. Can anyone verify and/or add appropriate info? Elf | Talk 19:40, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

Agree, can someone elaborate more abour the so-called Merlin MacDonald, he doesn't appear in any website save for this page!! April 11th 2006, 20:38 GMT-6

[edit] Newbie Question: Do we list breeder site on here?

Hi there, I'm new here and have been going thru alot of the Sporting Dog breeds and wonder if we do/or will we, ever be listing breeders? Wouldn't listing these websites be an advantage here? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by LdyDragonfly (talkcontribs) .

I doubt if breeder listings would go over well:
  • They can be regarded as commercial, and if there is any possibility that they are posted or modified by the breeders themselves, they will be quickly reverted.
  • They are arguably not encyclopedic.
  • Breeders come and go, so it would be hard to keep the list current.
  • General clubs (such as AKC) and breed clubs often have breeder referral services, which is a more appropriate place.
Also (IMO), I'd never get a dog from a breeder listed only in Wikipedia, and a reputable breeder would not sell me a dog just because I found their listing in Wikipedia.--Curtis Clark 05:14, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] See also

I added back Welsh Springer Spaniel; it links to this article, and both are linked from the Springer Spaniel disambiguation page.--Curtis Clark 07:13, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

There is no reason why there should be an internal link to only the Welsh Springer Spaniel. There is no breed specific similarities here other than name. If there was going to be a see also link, it should be to the AKC's Sporting dog group (which is only a stub under gun dogs). There should exist a disambiguation page for "Springer Spaniel", but no need to link between the two breeds of springer spaniel. They are two of twenty six breeds listed under the sporting group. Acherrington 03:12, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Okay, let's try again. This is an encyclopedia; it's for people who don't already know about a subject. One of the values that editors add is to enable readers to find what they are looking for even when they are unsure about what it is called.
It's important to make clear to readers that English Springers and Welsh Springers are different breeds. But a lot of people have just heard "springer spaniel" (and even that doesn't keep them from mistaking my springer for a setter). One solution would be to have a disambiguation link, something like "For other breeds with similar names, see Springer Spaniel" at the top of both articles. Another solution is the current one, to have a "see also" reference from each breed to the other. I can't think of any other solution than these two for helping people who have just heard "springer spaniel", but got to the article in some manner other than searching "springer spaniel", to know whether they are at the right breed. And it needs to be done the same way for both articles.--Curtis Clark 04:10, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bench champions

I reverted the elimination of the Westminster best-in-show; it's not like Westminster is some local show and these dogs were only competing against other ESS. I agree that field champions should be included as well, especially springers that have bested other breeds in national competitions.--Curtis Clark 03:03, 30 March 2007 (UTC)