Talk:Elrond

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I favor more information from the original character source, here it's the book not the movie. So I removed conjectural facts related to "movie Elrond" -- specifically, his role as herald to Gil-galad (Gil-galad is never even mentioned by name). There's also no evidence that "movie Elrond" would only allow Aragorn to wed Arwen only if he became king. Besides, that's more movie-related info than is warranted here. The rest of this article has major factural errors too, which I will get to soon. Alcarillo 19:55 28 Apr 2004 (UTC)

I, too, can find no evidence for this notion. I removed the line about Elrond being Gil-galad's herald pending further evidence. In "Of the Rings of Power and the Third Age," Elrond and Gil-galad are described almost on equal terms—in addition, he had already broke off on his own and founded Rivendell by the time of the Dagorlad battle. Unless Tolkien later made changes, it seems unlikely that he would have been serving as a mere herald. --[[User:Aranel|Aranel ("Sarah")]] 23:27, 17 Sep 2004 (UTC)

"I was the herald of Gil-galad and marched with his host." That's at the The Council of Elrond chapter. Aris Katsaris 23:41, 17 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Well, gee. (It still seems sort of bizarre to me. Perhaps the position was one of greater authority than we would associate with the term.) --[[User:Aranel|Aranel ("Sarah")]] 00:15, 18 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Elrond was deffinitly Gil-galad's herald.

Contents 1 Suggested Family Tree Change 2 Possible copyright violation? 3 Elrond's missing 10%... 4 Elrond's birth year 5 racism

[edit] Suggested Family Tree Change

The Aragorn-Arwen family tree should have more emphasis on Elrond's ancestry, or at least mention Elrond and Aragorn's common ancestor Earendil.

[edit] Possible copyright violation?

An anonymous user at 70.181.69.136 recently added some text to this article that appears to be taken from this site. This may be a violation of the site's copyright, unless the anon is the copyright holder. I've reverted it for now, and if the anon is the copyright holder he or she can restore the text. —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 05:20, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Elrond's missing 10%...

About his ancestry : 27.5% human + 56.25% elvish + 6.25% maia = 90% Elrond... Where's the rest of him gone??? --IronChris 08:10, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

Elrond's ancestry is actually 37.5% human, 25% Sindar, 25% Noldor, 6.25% Teleri, 6.25% Maiar... based on father Earendil being 50% Noldor (Idril) / 50% human (Tuor) and mother Elwing being 50% Sindar (Nimloth) / 25% human (Beren) / 12.5% Teler (Thingol) / 12.5% Maiar (Melian). So just an error on the percentage of human ancestry. That said, these percentages can be rather misleading as he was (in another sense) 100% peredhil and then, after choosing, 100% elf. --CBDunkerson 01:03, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Elrond's birth year

I could not find F.A. 525. Please show me where it exist. --RedDragon 15:56, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] racism

Hi, If you don't mind, I will put elrond in category:fictional racists since in one part of the fellowship of the ring he claims that humans are not worthy

While a case could be made for 'movie Elrond' being a 'racist' in some degree (though he apparently repented of his views) the 'anti human diatribes' simply do not occur in the book. Far from having a low opinion of Aragorn... book Elrond actually raised Aragorn as his foster son. Thus, I don't think the category is appropriate as it doesn't fit the primary character. --CBDunkerson 01:21, 23 May 2006 (UTC

do you mean repent as in feel sorry, remorse or change his mind?