Talk:Edwin Jarvis

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I removed the lgbt link. Ultimate Jarvis is gay, but the real Jarvis is not.

And until Ultimate Jarvis gets his own article, it's appropriate that the category link remain. CovenantD 23:47, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

Well, you could also say that since Ultimate Nick Fury is black, tehere should be a link to "black superheroes" on the Nick Fury page. The fact is that they are two different charcters who share the same name. Since the majority of the article is about 616 Jarvis, I am deleting the link.

A spurious argument, since Ultimate Nick Fury has his own article, so there's no need to stick that category tag on the Nick Fury article. --khaosworks (talk • contribs) 12:27, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Allright, yah smart aleck, it was an example. But, if you want to get testy, take Kestrel who is black in 616 and white in Ultimate. My point still remains the same. Unless it says "Ultimate Jarvis" IT'S NOT ABOUT ULTIMATE JARVIS. Why did Ultimate Nick get his own article in the first place? HE IS A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT CHARACTER!!! So, case closed.

Well, nothing's stopping you from categorizing Kestrel in African-American supervillains and Caucasian supervillains if those categories exist. The simple truth of the matter is that the LGBT comic book characters category does exist and is appropriate for this article, and given that people are reverting you, it appears that others agree as well. There are many merged articles with Ultimate and 616 versions simply because there's not enough information to warrant two articles. In the case of Ultimate Nick Fury, there is enough, that's why the article was split up. Yes, the case is closed, but not in your favor. Perhaps you may like to seek a Wikipedia:Third opinion? --khaosworks (talk • contribs) 22:47, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

The Nick Fury and Ultimate Nick Fury pages should be merged, since most other Marvel character who have Ultimate counterparts have both characters on the same page. Dr Archeville 19:19, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

I agree with the unsigned user. Quote this very article: "Jarvis and Aunt May began to develop a romantic relationship." How can he be a LGBT character? In Earth X JJ Jameson was turned into a donkey. Is he listed under fictional donkeys? I think not! Alternate Dimension can some times be completely re-imagined or completely different characters with the same name or codename. A many a time they contradict each other. Since the article is called "Edwin Jarvis" and not "Ultimate Edwin Jarvis" I am removing the link. Besides the Ultimate character has all of two sentences to his name and, since he is now deceased, will be of far less importance to the MU than the 50+ year old butler who is is still kicking. If you must, Ultimate Jarv is a footnote- and footnotes, while noteworthy, aren't as important as the main article. User:Merlin Storm05:18, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

And several other editors have expressed why it belongs, including a neutral third opinion. Your analogy to JJJ is a strawman argument at best because JJJ's basic character isn't a donkey. Until Ultimate Jarvis gets his own article, any categories should be listed here. CovenantD 16:54, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Third Opinion

After viewing many of the other articles in Category:LGBT characters in comics, it appears to be acceptable to list them there, even if only one of their "incarnations" was gay. So, even though Edwin Jarvis is not gay, Ultimate Jarvis is, so the LGBT category is appropriate. I hope this helps to resolve this dispute. If you have any questions, feel free to leave me a message on my talk page. Amalas =^_^= 17:57, 16 May 2006 (UTC)