Talk:Edward Lewis Brown

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Contents 1 Compound or House? 2 Corrections on criminal convictions 3 Tax Protester Statutory Arguments 4 Verbiage moved from article

[edit] Compound or House?

It is interesting that "compound" is used to define this man's home. Most architects in the know would classify this home as practical and more precisely it would be considered "sustainable" or "green".

The above comments are correct. The use of the word "compound" is biased, inflamatory, and grossly inaccurate. Wikipedia's own article on "compound" defines it as a complex of several buildings surrounded by a defensive wall. The brown home is no such thing, and is virtually indistinguishable from any other modern home built after the 1980s, save for the well hidden solar panels. The structure is a single, free-standing, and exposed suburban-style house. The house was designed to be energy efficient and environmentally friendly. That section has been edited to reflect this.

• Agreed. -- TexasDawg 16:44, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

See also Wiki's definition of "castle"; this might be more accurate than compound. Most "suburban-style houses" do not have a turret with 10 inch thick concrete walls and gun ports! BlueKnight 18:16, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

• A deck is not a turret, siding is not a 10 inch thick concrete wall, and windows are not gun ports. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.214.146.145 (talk) 13:33, 14 February 2007

• See MR. BROWN'S DESCRIPTION of the property including a tower and 10 inch thick concrete walls.

http://www.concordmonitor.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070117/REPOSITORY/701170329 BlueKnight 15:39, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Many recent news reports are now referring to the property as "fortress-like" instead of being a "compound." I would suspect that this would be no more acceptable to those who think this is just your average house. BlueKnight 15:50, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Corrections on criminal convictions

I added corrections on the description of the criminal convictions. It's somewhat common for the news media to refer to just about any Federal criminal tax conviction as "tax evasion," and that's unfortunate. Federal tax evasion is actually only one specific tax crime, at 26 U.S.C. § 7201. There are many others.

As the corrected article points out, Mr. Brown himself was not even charged with tax evasion. His wife was so charged (and convicted), and indeed Mrs. Brown actually was convicted on far more criminal counts over all than Mr. Brown.

I will hopefully have more detail on the criminal convictions as I study more of the indictment and the jury's verdict. Yours, Famspear 03:54, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

I added some detail on the possible prison sentences, but that's subject to change because I showed only a rough total, based on a quick reading of the indictment, the jury verdict, and the statutes. (That's code for: I think I got it right, but it's pretty late on a Monday night and I'm pretty tired, and I haven't even washed the dishes yet, and if I screwed it up I'll change it later or someone else will catch it!) Yours, Famspear 04:36, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Dear readers: OK, I've added some detail on background for the specific charges - specific things that Mr. and Mrs. Brown were charged with doing.

Also, I haven't yet added anything on the forfeiture matter. The indictment calls for a criminal forfeiture under 31 U.S.C. § 5317(c) that could include certain items of real estate in New Hampshire. This statute involves forfeiture, to the United States, of any property involved in the criminal offenses, and any property traceable to the offenses. Stay tuned. Yours, Famspear 06:03, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

• Thanks for your cleaning up and correcting much of the article. The addition of so many footnotes and full listings of each charge and indictment allegations clutters the article though. I've removed these from the article since they can be found by referring to the reference you've cited. -- TexasDawg 00:02, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Tax Protester Statutory Arguments

sorry I meant to edit the: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_protester_statutory_arguments#The_.22IRS_refuses_to_say_what_law_makes_U.S._citizens_liable_for_income_tax.22_argument page.

I encourage you all to check it out, because it does have very biased statements. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Michaelmcneil (talk • contribs) 23:20, 2 March 2007.

[edit] Verbiage moved from article

The following verbiage was inserted by an anonymous user, and is being moved to here:

also forgot to add how the judge was saying how state taxes do not have to abid by the federal taxes...when they do

I'm not sure what the user was trying to say; it sounds like a discussion comment that belongs here on the talk page. Yours, Famspear 19:56, 3 April 2007 (UTC)