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{{helpme}} I am editor of the Jason Shand page on Wikipedia and am wondering what Admin rights i have for it ? Incase of Vandalism to the page, how do i re-fix it, how can i stop it and is there anyway to make it a member only posting page to add information given he is a public domain personality and could be prone to vandalised attacks on the page if he mentioned his page on-air and trouble makers are listening. If any information can be given would be muchly appreciated , thanks.

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[edit] Your RFA

Hi there, Tromsogirl. I'd like to suggest that you withdraw your self-nomination for adminship. Most candidates for adminship have at least 2,000 edits and 4 months' experience, whereas you have only one day's experience. You do not need the admin tools to revert vandalism on the article you created; you can do that as a registered user, or even as an unregistered user. Just keep the page on your watchlist (click "my watchlist" next to "my preferences" for instructions), and any time anyone edits it, take a look at what they've done. If you think it constitutes vandalism, remove it and leave a message on their talk page. Again, I strongly recommend that you withdraw your request for adminship as you do not need it and are very unlikely to get the tools. RFA can be a grueling experience and it's unnecessary for you to put yourself through it right now, as you will not succeed and you do not need the tools. Your contributions are very helpful and I hope to see you around soon; perhaps you'll be up for adminship in a few months! :) If you need anything, leave me a message. Have a great day! Srose (talk) 13:53, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

I'm not a bureaucrat, so I can't take your request down, but if you leave a message for User:Taxman (he's probably active right now), he will help you. Also, you can leave a message under "Candidate, please indicate acceptance of the nomination here" on the RFA saying that you wish to withdraw, and someone will withdraw the request shortly. Another option is to leave a message on Wikipedia talk:Requests for adminship. Have a great day!!! (PS: you should sign your messages on talk pages with four tildes (like ~~~~). :) Srose (talk) 14:12, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

You never listed it on the main RfA page which is when it becomes "official" in some sense so if you want, I can just delete it. But I have closed it also, so any edits to it from now on should be reverted, and you can just leave it like that if you want to. Let me know if I can help with anything else. - Taxman Talk 15:31, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Jason Shand article

Hi. I'm kinda new too and just adding stub templates on relatively short stub-type articles. Would you consider the Jason Shand article to be relatively moved far enough along to merit it a "start", not a "stub", class?robertjohnsonrj 13:24, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Jason Shand Vandalism

Hi there. Thanks for the comment on my talk page. Looking at the whois records for IP address 193.195.220.34 [1] indicates that the address is part of a batch allocated to EMAP radio. Its likely that the addresses are pooled between everybody who works there so we can't tell the individual. However, the whois records does give contact details of somebody (presumably the systems administrator) who may be able to help.

The user hasn't been banned from editing (and has made an edit to a different article today). There are potentially two issues around banning the user:

  1. As a block of addresses are allocated to EMAP it may well be that the user is randomly allocated one of the IP addresses when they connect to the internet so just banning this single IP address may not help.
  2. Where IP addresses are shared between users (e.g. all the users connect via a single central firewall to the internet) then banning the IP address would lock everybody in the office out.

Usual practice with this sort of thing is to wait and see how it develops. The first few times the user gets warned for vandalism. If they contine that it gets passed to the administrators to consider a block. WP:VANDAL has some more information and links on handling vandalism.

You may also want to add the Jason Shand article to your watchlist to keep an eye of any changes that get made. --MarkS (talk) 14:09, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Start/stub difference

Stubs are usually very short in length, depending upon the amount of available of reliable noteworthy information about the given subject. This may be anywhere from one sentence to 4-5+ paragraphs. Ideally, for stubs to expand into starter articles, sufficient reliable starter information must be in the article. This information must be clear, precise, direct, and informative with proper headings, language-appropriate syntax, grammer, etc. That's about it. Additional elements may/should include any or all of the following: phonetics, tables, banners, infoboxes, notes/footnotes, headers, quotes, maps, internal* and external links, references, images, sound recording, video recordings, templates, categories. It's getting more difficult for project administrators to rate the importance of some articles.

NOTE: *In case you don't know this, to add internal links to your article, run complete Wikipedia searches of any and all combinations of elements of your article's name, go to those articles and link them back to your article. robertjohnsonrj 20:57, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Jason Shand page

OK. I'll review it. Thanks for the tip.--robertjohnsonrj 13:17, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Jason Shand

Thanks for all your hard work in writing this article. I think it would really benefit from some major changes. At the moment it reads like a fan page. What we need are referenced (see WP:V) facts about the presenter, which are not anecdotal (see WP:OR). A lot of the fluff about catchphrases and so on could easily go; it would make the article easier to read as well as being more in line with our policies. I would also suggest you review WP:OWN; the danger when you have worked as extensively as you have on an article is that you start to resent others who want to improve it. Sometimes great improvements can come from concision. What do you think? --Guinnog 04:42, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Another thought; sometimes it is actually harder to write well about someone or something you know very well, which is why we have WP:AUTO. Let's see if we can get a few others involved, and bring tthis article to Good Article status. --Guinnog 06:06, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Shand

The article needs to be changed a LOT. I'm inclined to cut it back to a stub and rebuild it from there. It's full of original research and unsourced information which is generally not allowed on Wikipedia, but especially not on biographies of living people. It reads like a friendly (to Shand) promotion, not an encyclopedic article. Sarah Ewart (Talk) 06:44, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

When I get a spare moment, I'm going to cut it back to a stub. All the original research has to go. If, as you say, there is nothing that can be written without it coming from him, he shouldn't have an article here. You don't seem to understand that information must be verifiable from secondary sources. Shand himself is a primary source and that is not acceptable. I think the following policies and guidelines will help you understand what I'm saying and I encourage you to review them: WP:BLP, WP:V, WP:NOR, WP:RS and WP:BIO. Sarah Ewart (Talk) 01:15, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your request

I'm sorry, but we can't delete accounts. There's just no way to do it. Sorry. Sarah Ewart (Talk) 22:15, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

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