Ed Seykota

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Edward Seykota
Born August 7, 1946
Occupation commodities trader

Edward A. Seykota (born August 7, 1946) is a commodities trader, who holds degrees in Electrical Engineering and Industrial Management from MIT, 1969. In 1970 he pioneered Systems trading by using early punch card computers to test ideas on trading the markets. Seykota resides in Incline Village-Crystal Bay, Nevada, on the north shore of Lake Tahoe.

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[edit] Career

As a young man he attended high school near The Hague, Netherlands and also lived in Voorburg.

[edit] Trading methods

Dubbed to have “the mind” of a trader, Ed Seykota is a trader who in 1970 pioneered a computerized trading system (now known as System trading) for the futures market for the brokerage house he and Michael Marcus were working for. Later, Ed decided to venture out on his own and manage a few of his client’s accounts. This proved to be success as his investments generated huge returns.

Much of Ed’s success was attributed to his development and utilization of computerized trading systems to which he first tested on a mainframe IBM computer. Later on, the brokerage house he had been working for adopted his system for their trades. However, the thing that disappointed Ed most was the fact that they doubted the signals generated by the system, which resulted in missed opportunities.

While his interest in creating a computerized system was an idea that was spawned after he read a letter by Richard Donchian on utilizing mechanical trend following systems for trading and also Donchian’s 5 and 20 day moving average system Ed also was inspired by the book Reminiscences of a Stock Operator. His first trading system was developed based on exponential moving averages.

Ed Seykota, Market Wizards

Systems don’t need to be changed. The trick is for a trader to develop a system with which he is compatible.

However, Ed is a constant innovator, which meant that he improved this system over time. This did not mean that he changed the system, but rather he adapted the system to fit his trading style and preferences. With the initial version of the system being rigid, Ed later introduced more rules into the system in addition to pattern triggers and money management algorithms. All of these worked well with Ed’s feelings as well, elements which were crucial for his success in trading.

Another aspect of Ed’s success was his genuine love for trading and also his optimistic demeanour. This factor sustained his efforts to continuously improve on his system. At the same time, Ed utilizes a combination of his mechanical system and his feelings when he trades.

[edit] Influence

Ed has influenced some traders. Some of Ed's students have included Michael Marcus, David Druz, Jason Dekker and Michael Stephani of Dekker Capital Management and Jason Russell of Salida Capital [1]

Ed was also a featured speaker on "polyamory" for the World Polyamory Association [1] on October 22 - 24, 2004, speaking specificially upon "Resolve Poly Conflicts In A Tribe" [2].

[edit] Controversial claims concerning physics

Disputed science:
Radial momentum

Disciplines:

Core tenets:
  • Air flowing over the top of a wing is deflected upward by "radial momentum"; decreased density, rather than decreased pressure, induces lift.
Year proposed: * 1997

Original proponents:

Current proponents:

  • Edward Seykota

Seykota maintains a website in which, while he does not deny the validity of the Bernoulli principle, what he considers it to be mis-applied, claiming that these mis-applications are bad physics. Seykota refers to his theory as the theory of radial momentum. He writes:

The classic theory of airplane lift is all about wing curvature ... and that, according to Bernoulli's Principle, fast-flowing air has lower pressure. In 1997, after pondering this matter for some twenty years, Ed Seykota concludes that lift has nothing at all to with Bernoulli's Principle ... rather, lift is a function of Radial Momentum ... the radial fanning out of a fluid lowers its density ... and therefore, the pressure decreases with the distance from the center of radiation.

Seykota's account of his "theory" is revolutionary and controversial as a consequence he receives a lot of criticism. For example, he claims that for spherical expansion, pressure is inversely proportional to the square of the radius. But according to mainstream physics, this statement is incomplete, since we are not told what is expanding (ideal gas?) into what (vacuum?), nor whether the pressure is varying spatially as well as varying over time, and if so, where he is trying to evaluate the pressure.

His response to objections to his theory is that they are "emotional", do not identify specific deficiencies, and that he feels that because his theory was radical but correct, it would be typical for it to receive disapproval for quite some time, until a champion with scientific credentials would come along to support it and take credit for it.

[edit] References

Elbe, Susan (October 11, 2000). Seykota expects "No Excuses" for reading proficiency. Zephyr staff. University of Nevada, Reno. Retrieved on September 4, 2006.

Troseth, Eric. "Can you forecast the market?", Work & Money, The Christian Science Monitor, October 20, 2003. Retrieved on September 4, 2006.

Seykota, Ed, Dave Druz. "Determining Optimal Risk", Stocks & Commodities magazine, March 1993. Retrieved on September 4, 2006.

Featured Speaker. TSAA 23rd Annual Conference. The Technical Securities Analyst Association of San Francisco (November 12, 2005). Retrieved on September 4, 2006.

[edit] External links

Wikiquote has a collection of quotations related to:

Seykota's official home page (2006). Retrieved on September 4, 2006.

Seykota's Trading Tribe website (2006). Retrieved on September 4, 2006.

Seykota's Bernoulli challenge website (2006). Retrieved on September 4, 2006.

Listing Seykota's "theory of radial momentum" (2006). Retrieved on September 4, 2006.

Brief biography. Profile. Master Mind Trader (2006). Retrieved on April 12, 2006.

[edit] Further reading

Schwager, Jack D. (1993). Market Wizards: Interviews with Top Traders. Collins. ISBN 0-88730-610-1. 

Covel, Michael W. (2005). Trend Following. Financial Times Prentice Hall. ISBN 0-13-134550-8. 

[edit] Notes

[edit] Magazines

Cohen, Amos, Joel Marver and John Slosberg. "Is there logic in Market Logic?", Futures magazine, Nov 1990. Retrieved on August 23, 2006.

Seykota, Ed. "MACD: sweet anticipation?", Futures magazine, March 1991. Retrieved on August 23, 2006.

Hartle, Thom. "Ed Seykota Of Technical Tools", Stocks & Commodities magazine, August 1992. Retrieved on September 5, 2006.

Burke, Gibbons. "Building on the Tower of Babel", Futures magazine, Sept 1992. Retrieved on August 23, 2006.

Burke, Gibbons. "Gain without pain: money management in action", Futures magazine, Dec 1992. Retrieved on August 23, 2006.

Burke, Gibbons. "Hard look at new software", Futures magazine, Dec 1992. Retrieved on August 23, 2006.

"Quick Scans: The New Market Wizards", Stocks & Commodities magazine, 1993. Retrieved on September 5, 2006.

Burke, Gibbons. "How to tell a market by its covers", Futures magazine, April 1993. Retrieved on August 23, 2006.

Burke, Gibbons. "Where to get end-of-day data.", Futures magazine, April 1993. Retrieved on August 23, 2006.

Hartle, Tom. "ChartBook System Version 3.2", Stocks & Commodities magazine, 1994. Retrieved on September 5, 2006.

Nusbaum, David. "Mind games", Futures magazine, June 1994. Retrieved on August 23, 2006.

Burke, Gibbons. "State of the chart", Futures magazine, August 1994. Retrieved on August 23, 2006.

Reerink, Jack. "Hot new CTAs of 1995", Futures magazine, Oct 1995. Retrieved on August 23, 2006.

Sweeney, John. "ChartBook Revision D 1.3", Stocks & Commodities magazine, 1999. Retrieved on September 5, 2006.

Tucker, Sherwood. "Stop right there", Futures magazine, April 2000. Retrieved on August 23, 2006.

Krueger, Diane. "The best reads for traders", Futures magazine, June 2000. Retrieved on August 23, 2006.

Collins, Daniel P.. "Turtles hatch", Futures magazine, Nov 2001. Retrieved on August 23, 2006.

Kelly, Ray. "The four pillars of profitable trading. (Trading Techniques)", Futures magazine, March 2002. Retrieved on August 23, 2006.

Lo, Teresa. "Set Up Your Trades With The Swing Indicator", Stocks & Commodities magazine, September 2004. Retrieved on September 5, 2006.

[edit] Books

Starzec, Jason; Mark Crisp (2003). How to Become a Stressfree Trader. page 57: iUniverse. ISBN 0-595-27505-2. 

Dunn, Andy (2004). Great Companies, Great Charts. page 86: iUniverse. ISBN 0-595-31275-6. 

Tharp, Van K. (1998). Trade Your Way to Financial Freedom. McGraw-Hill. ISBN 0-07-064762-3. 

Pring, Martin J. (1995). Investment Psychology Explained. page 200: Wiley; New Ed edition. ISBN 0-471-13300-0. 

Schwager, Jack D. (1995). Technical Analysis. Wiley. ISBN 0-471-02051-6. 

Harris, Sunny J. (1998). Trading 102: Getting Down to Business. page 210: Wiley. ISBN 0-471-18133-1. 

Koppel, Robert (1996). The Intuitive Trader: Developing Your Inner Trading Wisdom. pp 75, 90: John Wiley & Sons. ISBN 0-471-13047-8. 

Nagy, Andras M. (2006). Commodity Trading 101. page 97: Murine Press. ISBN 0-9753093-0-7. 

Steenbarger, Brett N (2003). The Psychology of Trading. page 316: John Wiley & Sons. ISBN 0-471-26761-9. 

Watson, David (2005). Business Models. page 240: Harriman House. ISBN 1-897597-58-4. 

Marder, Kevin N. (2000). The Best: Conversations With Top Traders. M. Gordon Pub. Group. ISBN 1-893756-08-4. 

Tier, Mark (2005). Becoming Rich. St. Martin's Press. ISBN 0-312-33986-0. 

Schwartz, Martin (1999). Pit Bull. Collins. ISBN 0-88730-956-9. 

[edit] Footnotes

  1. ^ Covel, Michael (January 13, 2006). Learn from these up and coming traders. The Connors Group. Retrieved on November 17, 2006.