Talk:Ecosystem ecology

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- Sounds a bit like Ecosystem Thermodynamics (e.g. Prigogine).

[edit] Where are the diagrams?

Where are the diagrams referred to throughout the text of this article?

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 88.96.89.222 (talk) 19:41, 21 March 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Merge with Systems Ecology

I think this page should be merged/replaced with Systems Ecology. There is very little information contained on this page anyway. Any objections? Cazort 18:23, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

Part of the problem with ecosystem ecology is that the can appear redundant... however, it is an important science for understanding global change, conservation, and especially, many natural resources issues. I feel this page should remain independent and I am planning a major expansion of the material in it. Please post your continued thoughts on this. Best, Ncycling Ncycling January 9, 2007

Any merge would be systems ecology into ecosystem ecology, since ecosystem ecology is a top-level subdisciple of ecology, while systems ecology is one of Odum's "new ideas" that are more popular with engineers than ecologists. Not sure how to merge them without the "undue weight" problems. Guettarda 19:30, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Please find posted tonight a first draft of my wiki contribution. Note also, as this is my first contribution that the formatting may be a little off. I will continue to work on this and pledge to update the page over the next week. The final section will also include a few paragraphs on cheat grass. Help, especially with links and other formatting is very welcome... as well as comments!!! The figures look bad and I will fix them. Please bare with this...

Also, prior to submission, this article has been anonymously reviewed by four ecologists and received favorable reviews. Ncycling February 24, 2007

Many thanks to Ncycling for his recent expansion of the article. Wikipedia needs experts! I have some questions though - the article delves very deeply into topics such as how ecosystems work. Since the article is about the discipline itself, maybe some sections would be better included in more specific articles more suited to such depth, such as Ecosystem. Any thoughts? +A.Ou 23:48, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

I also appreciated the recent contributions, though the formatting and diagrams might be refined down the track. I'm also thinking that ecosystems ecology is not that different from systems ecology. 'Ecosystems' is short for 'ecological systems', which is the reverse word order of 'systems ecology'. Given this, it's not clear to me where one discipline starts and the other ends. It would be beneficial to show where the main difference is. The presence of the 'ecosystem engineering' concept also muddies the water re: the distinction between engineers and ecologists. Sholto Maud 04:03, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Adding Links

Great job on the page Ncycling. I began adding links to other wikipedia articles, and will try to continue that in the next few days. I agree that ecosystem ecology should not be merged with anything else. It needs to remain a separate article since it is such an important academic field, although I can see that it might sound similar to many other topics that already have wiki pages to non-ecologists. Cheers Justinleif 18:12, 22 March 2007 (UTC)