Talk:Eclaireuses et Eclaireurs de France

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[edit] Scout Promise

This section, "The EdF were one of the few Scouting associations who were allowed to use the Alternative Promise by Robert Baden-Powell. This led to grave turbulences in the 1950s[3] and finally to the introduction of a religious formula which may be used by the Scouts and Guides but is not an integral part of the Scout Promise." is extremely vague. Could someone describe the 'turbulences' and the 'religious formula'? What Promise do they actually use now? This is an important example of how Scouting in a secular context fitted in with Scouting in a religious context (Scout de France) and more details might assist people in an increasingly secular Europe. My French is not good enough to read the reference. --Bduke 23:27, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

I'll try to write more on this - but this may take some days. --jergen 08:50, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
Thanks, no hurry. I have been interested in this since the 1950s so I guess it can wait! --Bduke 09:01, 3 December 2006 (UTC)