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À ringraziè vi (Corsican), Zikomo (Chichewa)

or

Wiliwni (Abenaki), ngiyabona (Zulu)

That's thank you, from A to Z (by word or language). Sometimes I'm not good about thanking folks who thank me for my aimless fiddling around on Wikipedia. So in case I do forget, this should cover it. If you'd like more words of appreciaton, find them here.

Hey, they even have translations of the classic My hovercraft is full of eels]!




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[edit] Morikami Park mediation request

A request for mediation has been filed with the Mediation Committee that lists you as a party. The Mediation Committee requires that all parties listed in a mediation must be notified of the mediation. Please review the request at Wikipedia:Requests for mediation/Morikami Park, and indicate whether you agree or refuse to mediate. If you are unfamiliar with mediation, please refer to Wikipedia:Mediation. There are only seven days for everyone to agree, so please check as soon as possible. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.146.122.144 (talk • contribs) 19:51, February 25, 2007.

[edit] LGBT WikiProject newsletter

[edit] Oakland Cemetery

I'm curious how you arrived at the ratings you added to the talk page of Oakland Cemetery. Thanks for your time. -- mattb @ 2007-03-01T22:00Z


[edit] Race and health

Can you help with the wording and content of the opening paragraphs? futurebird 22:17, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Looks like others are doing a better job than I could, but thanks for thinking I could help. I'm actually just going thru and assessing unassessed articles all over the place, on different projects. On to the next ones! :) --Ebyabe 16:23, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Boyfriend

I see that your "boyfriend" is a writer (seems like an interesting book that you might like).

Looks like there's enough good content in the Project to start a Portal:Historic preservation, Portal:Historic Places or Portal:Cultural heritage? What do you think? —Dogears (talk contribs) 15:14, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

I looked at the preview and thought at first "Boyfriend?" Then I realized. I have so many, you see, it's difficult keeping track sometimes. *lol* Thanks, I'll have to look at those; I'm always looking to learn new stuff about Excel.
The Portal idea... it has kinda been in the back of my mind for a while. Just wasn't sure how to go about it. 'Course, I could do what I usually do; find ones that I think are neat, and steal... er, borrow the best stuff from them. I think the portal name would have to be prefaced with U.S, since we're only doing ones in the States.
How 'bout this? I just created a link to a potential sandbox, PortalNRHP. I'll mention it on the main site. People can play around with various portal ideas, and once we have something nice and pretty and useful, we can put it in mainspace.
Like we need more to do. *heehee* --Ebyabe 16:32, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] An Invite to join Aviation WikiProject

Hi, you are cordially invited to join the Aviation WikiProject! We're a group of editors working to improve Wikipedia's coverage of topics related to aviation. This includes aircraft, airports, airlines and other topics.

We look forward to welcoming you to the project! Trevor MacInnis (Contribs) 23:29, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Obviously you are new to this...

Just kidding. Thanks for the Categories clarification. It certainly makes more sense than listing all of the larger categories in addition to the more specific ones. I mostly just wanted to replace the useless page List of Chicago music venues which was redundant. Jcc1 08:00, 14 March 2007 (UTC) (Jeremy)

Thanks for your help. Coincidentally, I lived in Miami from 1984-1992, where I graduated from Coral Gables High School. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jcc1 (talkcontribs) 13:25, 14 March 2007 (UTC).
My folks and I moved away in '81. I visited friends down there, on-and-off, for a number of years after, but haven't been down there in ages. The closest I came recently was about five years ago, seeing my old high school in Hollywood. Even that made me not regret living in South Florida anymore. So sad. :(

[edit] National Park establishment dates

I just noticed that you reverted all of the recent edits made by the IP 64.163.55.18. It appears to me that some, but not all of those changes were actually legitimate. For instance, here on the Guadalupe National Park website, it shows the dedication as being September 1972. I agree with reverting the edits to Carlsbad Caverns, but I haven't checked the others- perhaps you should double-check the dates yourself and assume good faith. johnpseudo 19:01, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Assessments

Hi, Ebyabe. You recently assessed a few articles within the scope of WikiProject Abortion. I just wanted to thank you for taking the time to do so, and also to note that, thanks to your contributions, our small WikiProject has now completed its goal of assessing all of our articles. Thanks a tonne! -Severa (!!!) 23:26, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Infobox NRHP

Hi, I saw your infobox, and unfortunately I'm not very good with the workings of wikicoding. Could I bother you to create a derivative for the Portuguese Historic place registry? I can provide you with the fields that are registered, so it would look consistent with the info available and your infobox.Galf 11:28, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Infobox_IPPAR

Registry of the Instituto Português do Património Arquitectónico ID Designation/name; Other Designations; category/type of property;

Location lat/log; District/Council/Civil Parish; Address;

Protection Current status; Protection category; Decree; ZEP (special protection zone); "non aedificandi" zone; Coverage by ZEP or ZP (special or ordinary protection zones); World Heritage Site

Is this enough to get you started? if you have any questions let me know. This are the fields that are available from the Registry Galf 12:23, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Hi again, I saw the infobox and it looks nice. I'd do away with the map, though and replace it with a photo, the IPPAR provides free usage of their media. Also, some of the fields don't match the ones I had listed above. I should have mede it into a table or something. This fields i gave above are the exact ones from their database, and would be very easy to fill directly, the protections zones, etc, would be available in that format. this is one entry on their database [1] It's in portuguese but gives an idea of what's available. the Coordinates aren't available on the site, but I'm gessing someday someone will get them, from google earth or in place. Galf 15:18, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:WikiProject Categories/uncategorized

Is it helpful to this project for me to just be adding stub tags and cleanup tags, for example, as I did here Cellular Microarray or Cellmark, or would adding full category be vastly preferable where applicable? I guess what I'm asking is does a stub tag count as a category, or does removing the uncategorized tag and adding a stub notice just put the article right back into the uncategorized list? Cornell Rockey 18:19, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

The simple is answer is no.
Oh, to which question? That would help, wouldn't it. :)
Stub categories don't count. There's a whole separate category for uncategorized stubs. That is, articles that only have categories b/c they have stub tags. If you want to add stubs, that's not a bad idea, actually, since most of the uncategorized articles are stubs. But do add at least one real category before removing the uncategorized tag.
If you need help in figuring out apropos categories, drop me a line here. Nyarlathotep knows I've categorized a crapload-and-a-half of the things, doncha know. :) --Ebyabe 18:41, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
Thank you for the answer. I will added categories to all pages now as I attempt to help this wikiproject along.
As for why I asked you, you were the first person I clicked on from the list of members of this project who was not on a wikibreak. I also saw that you are quite the editor (20,000 edits, holy shit) and were likely to get back to me before I did any more damage.
Thanks again, and may his noodly appendages bless us all. Cornell Rockey 19:04, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Unassessed organized labour articles

I was planning on poking away at the articles in Category:Unassessed organized labour articles today, and I couldn't find them. With a little detective work it turns out you are the culprit! Thanks for your great work in cleaning up the backlog. Cheers.--Bookandcoffee 19:03, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Mali Empire Grade

Hi and thanks for your input on the Mali Empire page. I've done a majority of the work on the page and am happy for the grade it recieved. If it is not too much trouble, could you bring me up to snuff on exactly what info I would need to include or clarify to make the article a GA (good article). I'm still pretty new at this game but have learned a lot in a little bit of time. I read the grading system and believe I know at least some of the things that must be corrected on the page (the references for one thing). Is it possible for you to fill me in on any other problems. I couldn't find any gaps in info, POV or original research.

Thanks in advance Scott Free 20:22, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Science fiction conventions photos

I understand your motivation for moving the pics, but each was intended to be in the section it was illustrating, rather than clumped together like that. Thanks for trying to help. --Orange Mike 16:49, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Nonsense edits

== I cannot figure out why you are making nonsense edits on the bee and beekeeping pages. Are you using some kind of template for something else? Please stop. Pollinator 14:38, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Assessment

You added a B-Class assessment to Postage stamps of Ireland today and I wondered if you have any constructive advise on improving it. I did a lot of work on this article last year and would love to see a philatelic article get a GA or A class level. It might be a great boost to the philately project. Thanks, ww2censor 01:42, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

I'm glad I checked your talk page first; I like keeping conversations on one page as well. I'm dizzy enough as it is without flipping between talk pages! :)
First off, I'm just going through various projects and assessing, just for fun. Mostly I'm doing a cursory-ish skim. I actually tend to rate low b/c of that, so sometimes the ones that I put in a 'start' for might be closer to 'B' and such. Lucky for you, huh?
In fact, I was tempted to rate the postal article a 'start'. But the length and references and pictures and nice format nudged it to a 'B'. The stamp images were particularly gorgeous. Told you I was superficial. :)
I'd say the big thing you need is inline references. For GA status, they're pretty much a must. Also run the whole article through spell and grammar check in the word processor of your choice, if you've not already. Sometimes it's easy to miss little glitchy things when you get to close too your writing, and that's why God invented spellcheck. Get rid of as many of the red links as you can, too. Either write stubs, or just delink them, or a combination thereof; whichever works best. Sometimes folks overthink the wikilinking, doncha know.
I mostly hang out around WP:NRHP; this assessment-mania of mine has been a bit of a diversion. I'm going to recommend you contact one of our members, IvoShandor. He's been doing an amazing job getting articles of his to GA status. He should be able to give you some excellent advice.
Good luck with getting the GA. I'll be off to bed now, then assess the rest of the Ireland articles tomorrow. Figured since I'm mostly Irish-descended and it's so soon after St. Patrick's Day, it was the thing to do. What project's articles after that, hmm? Woodworking, Big Brother, Morocco, Mythology, Christian Music, Islam; so many options! Later, and Erin Go Bragh! --Ebyabe 02:24, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
Thanks, though if this was assessed a start page I do wonder what an GA version would look like as it is already quite long and IMHO gives a well balanced view of the topic. More detail wold mean a much longer article, but hopefully you really just mean improving what is there already. I can certainly deal with the redlinks in one way or another. Cheers ww2censor 04:40, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
No, I don't think you need more detail; what's there appears to be more than sufficient. And yeah, it's pretty close to a GA actually, imho. It's mostly the lack of inline citations; that's one of my 'things', and I know they're considered important for any article above a "B". Luck! --Ebyabe 12:15, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
I will work on putting some inline citations in as soon as I get the time. I do that nowadays but this was my first major article and I was not as well versed as now. Besides which most of the references were philatelic literature as opposed to weblinks that are so much easier for me to do. IvoShandor is going to give it a look too. Thanks ww2censor 13:39, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Woodworking Project Ratings

Have noticed a few assessments you have made of late. This is a bit of a bugbear of mine. Take scratch awl for example. Rating it as a stub implies that there's a lot more that could be written about it, but frankly if it's ever more than a two or three paragraph subject, then I would be looking to pare it back. There is only so much you can say about a steel spike with a wooden handle that you use to scratch markings in a bit of wood. Possibly the only reason I can see for it being anything other than an A is that it cites no references. Otherwise it "provides a well-written, reasonably clear and complete description of the topic..." and is "... of a length suitable for the subject, with a well-written introduction and an appropriate series of headings to break up the content."

So I'm just wondering what criteria you are using in these ratings (yes there are quite a few in the woodworking project that I feel the same way about) and if it's more than just a cursory look at the relative length (I'm sure it's more than that, isn't it ;)), then perhaps you could help out by highlighting the deficiencies as you see them on their respective talk pages. Or even better, cut loose on them yourself. SilentC 04:30, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

No worries. As you say, probably better a low rating than no rating. Just get a bit miffed at having all my hard work dismissed with a stub rating!! I find those rating guidelines difficult to apply so haven't bothered with them up till now. Cheers SilentC 22:38, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] NRHP collaboration

The current WikiProject National Register of Historic Places Collaboration of the Fortnight is National Register of Historic Places.
Please help improve the article to the Good article standard or higher.

IvoShandor 06:56, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Template:Lacrosse

A question about your recent change to this template. Did you see a problem with the case-sensitivity? The switch statements checking for class and importance both use {{lc:{{{class}}}}} -- the lc should convert the class variable to lowercase, so you only need to list the lowercase options. I'm pretty sure I tested it to make sure that, for example, "class=stub" and "class=Stub" both worked, so I'm just wondering if you were having a problem or if you just changed it based on looking at the code. Thanks --MrBoo (talk, contribs) 22:50, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Can you point me in the right direction w/AWB?

FYI --Keesiewonder talk 00:32, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Rock Springs Massacre

Hey! How goes it. I was wondering if I could acquire your assistance. I have this article Rock Springs Massacre which is just about ready for GA, in my opinion. It has its second peer review, still open, and is now getting ready to go through its final proofread with the League of Copyeditors. However, one user has expressed POV concerns about the article. Could you give it an independent assessment and note any specifics or just change the wording. I contend that the background is necessary to understand the event and to omit the background or the events that occurred after it would be a disservice to the reality. Either way. Let me know what you think, I want to flesh this thing out, and this kind of thing requires more than one opinion. Thanks ahead of time. IvoShandor 02:45, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Can the intro part be sourced? Like the riot being racially motivated, for example. Or is that OK if it's referenced in the body of the article? I dunno how that works. I think overall it's at least a B, prolly a GA. Goodness knows it's better referenced than some GA's I've seen. Though it's not always about quantity, but quality, as I've been discovering in my wild assessment-mania of late. A short well-written article can be a B, depending on the subject (woodworking or obscure ancient Greek philosophers, say. See some of the comments above to see what I mean. Anymore, more later. --Ebyabe 19:56, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
Everyone tells me that references should be avoided in the intro and put in the main body as the intro should summarize the text. Refs should be used in the intro only for outstanding claims, apparently. I have noticed your mad assessment, that's pretty hardcore.IvoShandor 19:47, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
Oh and I kinda went a little mad and poured my brain out on the National Register of Historic Places page. I think I may have juiced it up enough for GA all by my lonesome, check it. IvoShandor 20:11, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
Good GOD!!! You're like a whole WikiProject or three yourself! You've definitely got the reference part down, that's for darn sure.
The assessing thing is a bit crazy, yeah. But learning about all sortsa stuff in dribs and drabs. And getting asked for advice on how to improve articles. I should just tell them, "Look at any article that IvoShandor has worked on." 'Cause baby, you da man!!! :) --Ebyabe 20:32, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
LOL! Thanks! I try. I never thought there was so much to know about the Register itself, I put the main history article up in my user space, right now its just a mirror of the section, but soon the section will be a summary and then it will be better because the article is getting long now. Thank God for WP:SUMMARY. Keep an eye on the article, it will get better and better, one day to FA! (That's like a 19th century campaign slogan or something). IvoShandor 20:59, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks...

...for reverting vandalism to my user page.  :) BTW, I have some Fort Myers historic place pictures sitting on my computer at home somewhere. March 31 I'm going to see the New York Mets play and that will probably be the last baseball I see for a while - then I'll likely get back into taking historic place pictures instead. Thanks again! —Wknight94 (talk) 19:48, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

You're quite welcome; it was the least I could do. And I need to go on a roadtrip soon, 'cause I've been spent too many of these gorgeous weekends hunkered down in front of my computer! :) --Ebyabe 19:50, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Saturnalia

You rated the saturnalia article "start class" recently; could you give some suggestions for improvement? Novium 20:56, 22 March 2007 (UTC) thank you Novium 23:11, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Matheson House (Gainesville, Florida)

You were the creator of the above article. Do you have any information as to why it is a place of historical interest, which could be added to the text? Thanks. LessHeard vanU 21:36, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

I added a bit more info. I stubbed the entire List of Registered Historic Places in Florida, and I didn't want to spend too much time on each one, or I'd have never gotten done. As it was, it took me several months. But I figured at least something existed. Sometimes the hardest thing for folks to do is create an article; adding to an existing one is easier. I did include links in all the stubs as well, as information sources for expansion. Cheers! --Ebyabe 17:03, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] NRHP

What would you call a criticism section to limit its inclusion criteria? For instance, National Register of Historic Places, right now, has a section I have called "Academic criticism" but I want to broaden its coverage to include those within related fields. As academic implies "peer reviewed" I cannot well include a non peer reviewed magazine, Architect in the section as is though an editorial in a June 2006 issue contains relevant criticisms. What to do monfrair? IvoShandor 16:45, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Say hemina-hemina-what? You could just call it "Criticism", if you don't mind being too generic. Or "Criticism", with "Academic criticism" being a subheading. "Intellectual criticism"? No, then you'd have to have "Non-Intellectual criticism". And there's enough of that in the world!
I went on a roadtrip yesterday. Didn't start until noon, and covered near-ish places (within an hour or here). I'm going to go back now to my pretty picture. You making me thinka too much on a Sunday morning. Which is even more gorgeous than yesterday, but I decided yesterday was good enough. Gotta plan out my future roadtrips a bit better. :0 Ebyabe 16:59, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
Man, the weather near Chicago is phenomenal too! Sorry to make you think. My main problem here is that I wanted to limit random additions of any joe blow who criticizes the Register. I started with "Criticism," now I have "Academic Criticism". I will have to think on this. IvoShandor 18:41, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
I'm looking out the window and there is not cloud one in the sky, and it's breezy. Which helps since it's getting into the '80s. Wait, I take that back; I can see one wispy lil' cloud near the horizon. We definitely need to take advantage whilst it lasts. :) I understand your reasoning; it's like the "Trivia" sections in articles that invite all sortsa junk to be added. Or fansites, gods help us. Good luck with the cogitation. Sorry I'm not feeling too Jack Handey today. :) --Ebyabe 19:02, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
Heh. Oh check it. User:IvoShandor/sandbox2/Wikipedia:WikiProject National Register of Historic Places/Frank Lloyd Wright collaboration, I dunno, I made a template and we could tag a bunch of articles with it if you wanted, might get a bunch of people interested, perhaps. I don't know if you like the idea of the division page or not. I seem to like to make them, : ), that and groovy templates. Oh and speaking of FLW... Check this, I am really going to try and go, expensive but such a cool opportunity to see something really special, and something rarely seen by the general public, for the most part anyway. IvoShandor 07:25, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
Went live with it, new FLW division. Feel free to add to or take away wherever. IvoShandor 08:08, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ogle County Courthouse

I hate to always be beggin' for help but . . . another of my articles is just about ready for Good article candidates, Ogle County Courthouse. It needs some copy editors though, any help is appreciated. Shouldn't be any huge glaring errors or omission but if you note anything other than minor copy edits let me know on the talk page. Thanks (if you have the time of course : ) ). IvoShandor 12:16, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Fixed some fiddley bits, which is amongst the kind of stuff I like doing. And dude, you've done so much work for the Project, I don't mind at all contributing my little bit. You also always ask nice, which counts big in my book. I like to help, it's one of the things I like about the Wikipedia. If I can make time, I will, and I usually can. Cheers! --Ebyabe 12:46, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
While I'm thinking of it, pictures. The one in the infobox is lovely, imho; one of my favorites you've done. Another one or two pics wouldn't be amiss, though. Especially in that additional section. Like one of the cannons, or the fountain; like that. I have a feeling you've got them somewhere, as you're as much of a photo nut as I am. :) --Ebyabe 12:49, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
I have the cannons, and the soldiers' monument, I didn't get the war memorial or the fountain, as I wasn't aware of them (didn't even see the fountain as a matter a fact and the war memorial looked to new to be relevant) because I hadn't discovered HAARGIS yet. : ) Feel free to drop another photo from common in their, there is some of the monument, the cannons are on another hard drive, not at my current locale, but I will grab them in the next couple (luckily lack of photos alone is not enough to fail a GA (I have been participating rather regularly)) according to the criteria. Phew! Okay, I am done, thank you Ebyabe. Is that some kind of weird anagram-like concoction btw? I have always wondered.IvoShandor 12:56, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
Oh, and thank you for the compliment. : )IvoShandor 12:56, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
I thought the snow looked particularly awesome, it never turns out right, it has texture there....IvoShandor 12:57, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] You are welcome!

It is wonderful to find pictures like that -- and I always do so accidentally. Most of those Florida places have no photos whatsoever. A photo makes it all so much more marvelous! Sincerely, --Mattisse 19:19, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

I have trouble finding anything on the commons. I don't know how to look, I guess. There appears to be no way to save galleries on my user page there. So I am always in a fog and run across pictures by accident. Yours, probably I'll never find again -- except now I know there is a User's Page category. But maybe I won't be able to find it again! Sincerely, Mattisse
Thanks for verifying that it isn't just me. I have spent hours hunting around that place for a pic. I find a jewel just enough times to keep me going back. None of their so-called instructions seem to be helpful at all. And unfortuately, very few people seem conscientious about categorising there pics, as you do. So a person never can tell where a picture might be found! Sincerely, --Mattisse 19:44, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] How do you find the category?

Category: Registered Historic Places is Florida -- how to find? I just tried with no luck! --Mattisse 19:57, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

O.K. It does work, clicking on that link. Thanks! --Mattisse 20:05, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
By the way, feel free to change anything I do, as I really don't know much about all this. I just figure (because it works for me) that when there are photos in an articles it inspires people to work harder on it! Sincerely, --Mattisse 20:24, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] West Palm Beach Seaboard Coastline Railroad Passenger Station

Here's the evidence that the West Palm Beach Amtrak/Tri-Rail Station and the W.P.B. Seaboard Coastline Railroad Passenger Station are one in the same.

http://www.trainweb.org/usarail/westpalm.htm

Hope you find this informative. ---- DanTD 23:58, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] A Class

I just saw your comment now, sorry. : )

From what I have found A-Class reviews are performed at the project level but should require a formalized process, unlike stub, start, and usually B Class articles.

Check out what I have floating around in my sandbox: User:IvoShandor/Wikipedia:WikiProject National Register of Historic Places/A class review. That's just the basics. I have this too, but I don't know if there is enough interest, but we could have it set up so the peer reviews here are transcluded into the main peer review page.

The only hurdle I see to starting up an A-class review at NRHP is that we would have to outline, in writing, some kind of criteria based on, a)other projects b)our own projects needs for articles (what they should include) c)what is written about A-class criteria. My basic assessment is that A-Class is just slightly below GA, which means the GA criteria could be useful in formulating our A-class criteria, because A-Class should basically mean, fix these things and go to GA. It would also make the cool way the template at Talk:University of Illinois Observatory all the more useful, i.e. A class assessment and promotions could be added to the article milestones. I am thinking, essentially, a toned town version of GA, based on specific parameters and needs laid out by the project. Any thoughts? IvoShandor 12:35, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

In addition, I have just worked out a rough draft of NRHP A-class criteria. I will need help with the "Project compliance" criteria, as to what you use to do your assessments based upon our project. Feel free to comment on the talk page there. This is just a preliminary outline. I will probably add some specifics kinda like the GA criteria are outlined. IvoShandor 14:07, 6 April 2007 (UTC)