Talk:Eble II of Ventadorn

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dans un article consacré à Eble d'ussel, François PIROT évoque Eble de Ventadour et donne comme date de décès 1147, à la croisade d'Orient.

Vous mentionnez 1151, soit quatre ans plus tard en Italie. Quelles sont vos sources?

Merci

D STAMPART

In fact I wrote 1155 in the article, but why?

I believe that my source was the following web page [1] which calls him "DE VENTADOUR, Ebles III le Cantador" [sic] and gives the following details: "Naissance: après 1086. Décès: 1155 à Mont Cassin Italie. Profession: Vicomte. Profession : Vicomte de Ventadour. Décès : au retour de la 2ème croisade."

Is this reliable? Maybe not. But maybe 1147 is not the true date of death, but the date on which the last reliable record of his life is found (not the same thing!) Note this web page [2] which says "A cet Èble, premier vicomte en résidence à Ventadour, mort vers 1195, succéda son fils Èble II, dont l’existence est attestée jusqu’en 1147"

If you find further information I would be very interested! Andrew Dalby 19:41, 15 October 2006 (UTC)