Talk:Eating clubs (Princeton University)

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Is it true that Whig and Clio were in fact secret societies? I'm not sure that's true... -- Sirmob

Yes, it is indeed true, as far as I know. They were not secret in the sense that their existence was secret, but secret in the Masonic sense --- they had secret rituals and so forth. This persisted to the 20th century. I would refer you to Nurseries of Letters and Republicanism, a history of the societies published by the societies---the society used to have extracts from it online at whigclio.princeton.edu, but they've apparently suffered from "technical failures". jdb ❋ (talk) 22:55, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

I'm reverting an earlier change in which reference to the coeducation of the eating clubs was removed. While younger Princeton alumni may not consider this point to be consequential, coeducation was a major struggle in the history of the eating clubs. Few young alumni may realize how hard it was, first, to get the eating clubs to admit any non-WASP students (back in the 1950s) and later after coeducation of the University in 1969 to get the eating clubs to accept women. The topics of overcoming racism, bigotry, sexism, and the everpresent problem of alcoholism in the eating clubs are all worthy topics for this article and need to be expanded on in the future. RCH, P '91. Rcharman 16:15, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

Odd. I wonder why it was removed? Clearly, it's the most significant single event in the history of the club system. jdb ❋ (talk) 20:08, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

I'm assuming it's a matter of either guilt or denial. Within one day of my reversion, the information had been vandalized again. RCH, P '91. Rcharman 02:50, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

Alternatively, there is the option of 'Third Floor Bicker,' a process by which a potential member can choose to perform personal favors for officers of the bicker club who traditionally live on the third floor of the club. Discretion is usually maintained.--Can someone elaborate on this? It sounds like a pretty explosive allegation and is it appropriate for Wikipedia? This isn't the Enquirer.64.132.218.4 20:25, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

"Third-floor bicker" is campus slang. It would not be surprising if there were the occasional exchange of sexual favors for club membership, but any student participating in such an exchange would probably be rather reluctant to acknowledge it in public -- so there's little for WP to do but acknowledge it as slang. jdb ❋ (talk) 09:17, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Deletion

This page should be deleted. This topic doesn't deserve an encyclopedia article. I don't think the princeton eating club is famous all around the world. Sorry. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.36.153.101 (talk • contribs) .

Personal bias is not a valid reason for deletion, please see Wikipedia's Deletion policy. 129.128.198.223 23:48, 7 February 2007 (UTC)