Talk:East Los Angeles, California

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Looks good. Does Monterey Park really belong on that list? Moncrief 05:54, Apr 4, 2004 (UTC)

Good question. It's basically Chinese, not Hispanic, I don't think it belongs culturally.

Not sure, Monterey Park was probably included because a large portion that borders East LA is heavily Hispanic and in fact was part of East LA until annexed by Monterey Park and holds East LA College and Ceaser Chavez Blvd. Giodude 10:04, Aug 19, 2004

Can somebody take a look at all of the cities listed in the region and see if they match up to the population listed here? RickK | Talk 05:55, 4 Apr 2004 (UTC)

If you're talking about the population figure for East L.A. listed, the communities described won't add up to the figure (assuming you could get population figures for all of those City of Los Angeles neighborhoods on the list). My understanding is that the population listed is specifically for East Los Angeles (the city, for lack of a better term). East Los Angeles the city isn't even on the larger meta-list. Being a northern Californian, I don't know exactly how the term East L.A. is used but my understanding is they're two separate lexical entries: one for the city (with its population figure here) and one for the larger list (doesn't mean they shouldn't be in the same article, just that the population won't match the larger list and I think that's ok as long as there are two separate bolded East L.A.s). God this is wordy.... Moncrief 05:59, Apr 4, 2004 (UTC)

LOL. I suppose. RickK | Talk 06:00, 4 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Here's another issue... "Los Angeles County east of the Los Angeles River" is not at all specific enough. That takes us deep into the San Gabriel Valley to places like Pomona, Diamond Bar, Claremont.... Rewording needed. Moncrief 06:04, Apr 4, 2004 (UTC)

Los Angeles County between the LA River and Downey, west of Baldwin Park? RickK | Talk 06:08, 4 Apr 2004 (UTC)

I guess we need to make an area bounded on four sides because otherwise, technically, Pasadena is included! What about, "whose boundaries are bounded, roughly, by the Los Angeles River on the west, Interstate 10 to the north, Interstate 605 to the east, and Downey to the south." Interstate 105 may be too far south, although it seems that the thoroughly Hispanic industrial cities of South Gate, Cudahy, etc might belong in the list (and would be mostly excluded if the 105 weren't the southern boundary). Does this feel right? I think naming freeways instead of cities is in some ways better because they serve as longer boundaries and really do divide neighborhoods. Moncrief 06:14, Apr 4, 2004 (UTC)

That sounds good to me. I don't think we should use the 105 because that would include Downey, which definitely isn't East LA. RickK | Talk 06:17, 4 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Cool. I swear, I spend more time thinking about Southern California geography than nearly any Southern Californian does. (This isn't directed to you, but rather at my own pecularities). I'll change the article, using Downey not the 105. Moncrief 06:20, Apr 4, 2004 (UTC)

Does Whittier belong here? RickK | Talk 06:21, 4 Apr 2004 (UTC)

You can make that call. It would be excluded by our boundaries. Does it feel like "East L.A." to you, when you hear the term? Note that Whittier extends all the way to the Orange County line and borders La Habra - which is def. not East LA. Moncrief 06:23, Apr 4, 2004 (UTC)

Whittier is "only" about 60% Hispanic and, while "Whittier Boulevard" feels very East L.A., my hunch is to exclude Whittier the city from the list. Moncrief 06:26, Apr 4, 2004 (UTC)

I agree. I don't know Whittier very well, but I wouldn't include it in East LA. I'll delete it. RickK | Talk 06:27, 4 Apr 2004 (UTC)

One more thing, and then I can't do this anymore tonight, but do you think the list of "greater" East LA places + the def of it should go after the Demographics etc of the "city" itself? I do. Otherwise, it's not clear which East L.A. that information is about. Moncrief 06:30, Apr 4, 2004 (UTC)

I think you're right. RickK | Talk 06:40, 4 Apr 2004 (UTC)

"First generation Hispanics" is slightly ambigious, in my opinion. Presumably they aren't the first generation in their family to be Hispanic. :) The first generation usually is equivalent to "immigrant." If you mean first generation to be born in the US, maybe phrase it slightly differently, though I admit nearly all ways to do so sound slightly awkward ("Hispanic American" doesn't have the same semantic concreteness as, say, "Italian American," maybe because Mexico/Central America are on this continent or for other sociocultural reasons). Moncrief 09:08, Apr 4, 2004 (UTC)

I meant the first generation living in the United States --Hispanic immigrants. Maybe I'll work on rewording it. RickK | Talk 23:18, 4 Apr 2004 (UTC)

[edit] East Los should be merged to East Los Angeles, California

It should be merged with East Los Angeles because this is a very short article. Check two you (talk) 13 March 2006

• Agree. ^BlankVerse 11:36, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
• Merge per nom.--Rockero 04:18, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
  • Done--Rockero 05:58, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] In the news

See A city grows in East L.A.?: Residents of the area, long known for its activism and culture, think incorporation could end neglect and solve some local problems. By Jim Newton, LA Times Staff Writer. BlankVerse 13:52, 4 February 2007 (UTC)