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[edit] "The influx of new characters is now nearing the end"

How do we know it's ever going to end? We thought it would stop months ago, but they kept adding more. Can this be re-written? — AnemoneProjectors (talk) 12:24, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Episode count

I think we need a source for the episode count because it could so easily go wrong. Someone's changed it today and I don't know if they were correcting a mistake or vandalising. — AnemoneProjectors (talk) 15:31, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Too Long

This article is obviously too long. I think it could be trimmed down or split up into multiple articles BadtoGood 23:53, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

It has been, History of EastEnders was created, but none of the other sections are sufficient enough to create a new article. I think it is fine how it is at the moment, actually. Trampikey (talk to me)(contribs) 15:23, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
I agree with Trampikey, but if we were to split off another section, "Viewership" is the longest. — AnemoneProjectors (talk) 15:41, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cast list

Is the extensive cast list really necessary as part of the infobox? A link to the full cast list would suffice. The fussy list looks clumsy and is hard to read in the context in which it currently appears. Articles for Coronation Street, Emmerdale and Hollyoaks all make use of a link to another article, and I think EastEnders should too. Ben 14:12, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

No views on the matter? The page is 64 kilobytes long (twice as long as any other British soap articles on Wikipedia - only beaten by Hollyoaks). I would have thought that the WikiProject would be looking to condense the article where possible. Surely this is a starting point? Ben 03:19, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
Firstly, I must say I don't like your provocative nature. Secondly, this article is much better than the articles for Emmerdale and Hollyoaks (and I think Coronation Street too, I don't think it deserves FA status) - so I don't think it should be compared to them as if they are on the same level. The infobox has always worked fine how it was, and the WikiProject is always open to suggestions, but you're going the wrong way about it becoming arrogant and causing a confrontation. Also, there's a guideline on Wikipedia called "Be bold" - which in a nutshell means "if in doubt, fix it" - I suggest you read that page. Trampikey (talk to me)(contribs) 11:21, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
I am not being provocative, if you think I am then I apologise, but my suggestions are not to be interpreted as such. I grouped EastEnders with other British serial dramas because they are of the same genre - surely Wikipedia strives for uniformity? I am dismayed that you feel I am being so 'arrogant' and you may note that I was bold and edited the page, only for it to be quickly reverted. So, I made a suggestion on the talk page which was ignored for almost 3 days. You will also find that Coronation Street no longer has FA status, but I'm working on it. Ben 16:10, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
Your suggestion was not being ignored. Not everyone is available at this time of year. To be honest, I did think I had replied already. Although I've reverted your changes to the cast list, I only did so because I believe we should discuss it first. I think giving a link to the list of characters would be better, not only to keep the infobox shorter, but the list of characters is better maintained than the list here, which is sometimes left out of date. So I'm in favour of a single link. How about you, Trampikey? — AnemoneProjectors (talk) 16:18, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
I apologise for not adding a discussion to the Talk Page before editing, but I thought my edit was justifiable since other British soaps follow the same procedure. I understand how important your WikiProject is, and I was only trying to help the general appearance of the article and, of course, its size (I am a bit of a size-freak...no pun intended!).Ben 16:45, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
I think you mean size queen :) — AnemoneProjectors (talk) 19:00, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Goofs

the set designers and researchers really need to go into London a bit more. esp when it comes to study a tube map.. Tuesday 23 Jan esp of eastenders with the kidnapping of Ben shows Martin and Ben on the railway bridge, with 2 goofs, in the past its shown as a normal (nat rail) not a tube bridge so therefore it should of been overhead cables because that line by their current location is running c2c trains.

to further the goof, and the stupidity of the researchers/designers the trains that where (poorly) CGI'ed in seemed to be Northern Line trains instead of District Line or Hammersmith and city lines. they say that walford east is ment to be the real life Bromley-by-Bow station which is runs on the District line and H&C

also has any londoner notice that not one person in walford owns or even mentions owning an oyster card 82.24.175.199 19:51, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

I thought the CGI was good. I don't think it matters too much what train was used. Bradley Branning mentioned on his "lucky day" that he lost his wallet containing (amongst other things) his oyster card. — AnemoneProjectors (talk) 21:54, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

well it wasnt realistic, being that close to the trains going that speed, (though it should be a C or a D stock train for the record) martin and ben would of been under the wheels.. also the line would of been at least part suspended because they tresspassed on the line at least one driver would of noticed. in regards to the oyster card. not even the kids have their free one when they go to school cos they take the bus.. just simple things really walford is ment to be part of east London yet it doesnt seem like it.. you dont even see the docklands from the horizon like you would in east London —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 82.24.175.199 (talk • contribs).

Yes they were too close to the train to not be affected by it. It's a soap opera, not a train spotters guide. Since when have soaps been realistic? There's nothing wrong with taking a bus to school. — AnemoneProjectors (talk) 01:20, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

the point is not train spotting, it be like watching a movie about WW2 and they decide to put a harrier jump jet in or something, knowing the eastenders researcher they would. and you missed my point about the bus.. if you live (or been in london) you know that kids have free travel with oyster. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 82.24.175.199 (talk • contribs).

It's fiction. Not real life. Get over it. -Trampikey(talk)(contribs) 10:00, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
Well they could have made more effort but in the end it doesn't matter. As for the Oyster cards, have we ever seen the children getting on the bus? Oyster cards work on buses too. If we haven't seen it we can't assume they don't use them. — AnemoneProjectors (talk) 11:04, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

well the other goof with i pointed out was that it was a mainline railway brige not a tube brige.. because that VE day eastenders i think in 1995 Auther Flower sees a steam train go past the bridge. then it suddenly turned into a tube line.. tube and mainline trains dont share the same line in that part of london they only place that does in between Queens Park and Harrow and Weildstone on the bakerloo line in north london. however the Mainline and Tube line run along side each other east of the tube station but the bridge is not long enough and they should be overhead cables. if thats walford is meant to be. 82.24.175.199 13:28, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

May I turn your attention to the notice at the top of this page; "This is not a forum for general discussion about the article's subject." Therefore, please shut up! -Trampikey(talk)(contribs) 15:40, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
Please be civil. — AnemoneProjectors (talk) 22:19, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
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