Talk:E pur si muove!

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Shouldn't the translation be "and yet it moves"?


Removed the following sentence:

(N.B. deviance from geocentric views of the universe have never been condemned as heresy or even error. The heresies refered to in Galileo's circumstances were theological opinions that he asserted, in his mind, as a result of his scientific beliefs... for example, statements regarding an individual's authority to interpret scripture over the church, the nature of the Eucharist, etc.)

The actual accusation and condemnation pronounced by the Inquisition (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galileo_Galilei#Church_controversy; also http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/mod/1630galileo.html) say he was "vehemently suspected by this Holy Office of heresy, that is, of having believed and held the doctrine (which is false and contrary to the Holy and Divine Scriptures) that the sun is the center of the world, and that it does not move from east to west, and that the earth does move, and is not the center of the world..."

If that's not condemning it as an error, just exactly what is?

And the available text does not mention the Eucharist in any way whatever.

The passage could be restored, with suitable emendation, if someone were to provide some basis for it in historical documents. If you wish to put something in the article to the effect that some authors claim that other things were the real reason, in contradiction to the direct evidence, then that would not necessarily be POV; though it would be more relevant in another article, like Galileo or Inquisition or Heresy or Heliocentrism. Dandrake 01:37, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Giordano Bruno

I believe there is another legend that the line “E pur si muove!” was spoken by Giordano Bruno (rather than, or at least before, Galileo), perhaps even as he was burned. This is probably false, but maybe worth mentioning in the article (if only to describe it as a legend). Could someone with more knowledge than me shed some light on this? --Gro-Tsen 03:01, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Pronunciation

Can some sort of pronunciation guide be added for those of us who don't know Italian? —Etaoin (talk) 16:23, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Painting

anyone know which painting is referred to in the article? jdevries 00:14, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

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