Talk:E-mail address
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Would be nice for someone to find a list of government e-mail-for-all initiatives or more of the cultural stuff, rather than just adding to the technical details.
A note vis-a-vis allowed characters - despite me accidentally adding a period to the excluded characters list, the rest are from the RFC, so should be correct. If you see different it's because the standard is being broken.
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[edit] Unconventional email addresses
This section presents nothing of value and should be cut.
[edit] The Need for E-mail
I cut this section, then User:IanM restored it. I'm cutting it again because it still has many errors. I don't object to something like this being in the article, but it should be correct.
- Having your own e-mail address is considered an essential part of life in cyberspace and is required for almost everything other than viewing pages. Making online purchases, subscribing to paid content, posting in web logs or Internet forums, participating in Usenet newsgroups and many other tasks will require a valid e-mail address. Despite once being considered part of "geek culture", not having an e-mail address can seriously disadvantage a person. For this reason, many governments in modern countries are undertaking initiatives to give e-mail addresses to public servants and school children.
None of the listed activities require an e-mail address. Most online retailers and some web sites require you to have an e-mail address in order to sign up for their services. But some retailers and most web sites don't. For example, you don't need an e-mail address to edit Wikipedia. So this needs to be rewritten with specifics. How exactly not having an e-mail address disadvantage a person? Which governments are untaking which initiatives? Gdr 10:20, 2004 Jul 9 (UTC)
Maybe "Making online purchases..." should be replaced with "In many cases making online purchases..."? Paul Carpenter 14:59, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Insightful and informative (a few things a geek like me didn't know, also). Keep. --Primetime 20:54, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
Keep. Email addresses are different to Email itself, in that this article discusses the actual address. You can't combine that with email.
[edit] Complexity of email addresses
This article currently doesn't explain the complexity of email addresses, in that they may take many forms, many of which would not be recognized as valid email addresses by the average internet user. As evidenced by the EBNF for email addresss (I may have missed some as I copy-pasted from RFC 2822 the parts I could find that were needed):
address = mailbox / group
mailbox = name-addr / addr-spec
name-addr = [display-name] angle-addr
angle-addr = [CFWS] "<" addr-spec ">" [CFWS] / obs-angle-addr
group = display-name ":" [mailbox-list / CFWS] ";" [CFWS]
display-name = phrase
mailbox-list = (mailbox *("," mailbox)) / obs-mbox-list
address-list = (address *("," address)) / obs-addr-list
addr-spec = local-part "@" domain
local-part = dot-atom / quoted-string / obs-local-part
domain = dot-atom / domain-literal / obs-domain
domain-literal = [CFWS] "[" *([FWS] dcontent) [FWS] "]" [CFWS]
dcontent = dtext / quoted-pair
dtext = NO-WS-CTL / ; Non white space controls
%d33-90 / ; The rest of the US-ASCII
%d94-126 ; characters not including "[",
; "]", or "\"
FWS = ([*WSP CRLF] 1*WSP) / ; Folding white space
obs-FWS
ctext = NO-WS-CTL / ; Non white space controls
%d33-39 / ; The rest of the US-ASCII
%d42-91 / ; characters not including "(",
%d93-126 ; ")", or "\"
ccontent = ctext / quoted-pair / comment
comment = "(" *([FWS] ccontent) [FWS] ")"
CFWS = *([FWS] comment) (([FWS] comment) / FWS)
NO-WS-CTL = %d1-8 / ; US-ASCII control characters
%d11 / ; that do not include the
%d12 / ; carriage return, line feed,
%d14-31 / ; and white space characters
%d127
specials = "(" / ")" / ; Special characters used in
"<" / ">" / ; other parts of the syntax
"[" / "]" /
":" / ";" /
"@" / "\" /
"," / "." /
DQUOTE
quoted-pair = ("\" text) / obs-qp
text = %d1-9 / ; Characters excluding CR and LF
%d11 /
%d12 /
%d14-127 /
obs-text
atext = ALPHA / DIGIT / ; Any character except controls,
"!" / "#" / ; SP, and specials.
"$" / "%" / ; Used for atoms
"&" / "'" /
"*" / "+" /
"-" / "/" /
"=" / "?" /
"^" / "_" /
"`" / "{" /
"|" / "}" /
"~"
atom = [CFWS] 1*atext [CFWS]
dot-atom = [CFWS] dot-atom-text [CFWS]
dot-atom-text = 1*atext *("." 1*atext)
qtext = NO-WS-CTL / ; Non white space controls
%d33 / ; The rest of the US-ASCII
%d35-91 / ; characters not including "\"
%d93-126 ; or the quote character
qcontent = qtext / quoted-pair
quoted-string = [CFWS]
DQUOTE *([FWS] qcontent) [FWS] DQUOTE
[CFWS]
[edit] Perl's RFC2822 email regex
And the following regex for validating emails, from Perl's RFC2822 package:
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porges 01:27, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
- Yarr, that be mighty advanced, I appriciate it, however. Thank you 62.20.156.137 19:02, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] plus signs
Is there a polite way to convince people to allow email addresses with plus signs, as required by the appropriate standards since 1982?
You could threaten to list them on the "plus haters page of shame".
- I recommend this statement:
- I have listed your website at http://mozilla.wikia.com/wiki/User:Me_at_work/plushaters#Plus_haters as it does not conform with accepted Internet email standards AND does not assist in the prevention of spam and address reselling
This section of the article should be updated to explain how plus signs can be used to track down spammers and sellers of email addresses. 147.145.40.44 18:47, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Moved comment from main article to talk page
The following was found at the end of the "plus (or minus) addressing" section:
- "The reason why gmail.com and qmail support are different systems, or pro's and cons have yet to be fully explained."
I couldn't figure out who originally added it. It looks more like a (poorly formatted) general comment than anything that belongs in the article, so I've moved it here in case anyone would like to discuss it. Pat 16:51, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] English Language ??
The Phrase "Through technical misuse of the word" should be removed. It is such a common usage that it could be said to be another meaning of the wordin it's own right.
[edit] References
The following is incorrect. The link is not RFC 2822 compliant because the input box only allows for up to 90 characters.
Verify email address: Verify the syntax & format, the domain name, a valid user and actual mailbox. (RFC 2822 compliant online free tool).
Similar to above, the last reference linked, "e-mail address validation: a Regular Expression that validates e-email addresses according to RFC 2822", is incorrect. It attempts to validate email addresses, but does not do so in accordance with RFC 2822. IMO, it's considerably further from RFC 2822 than most other examples I have seen and should be removed entirely. RevEng (James Cooper) 18:41, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
- I restored the link to one that was used earlier. The regular expression listed there still isn't right though, as it rejects various parts where stuff like UTF-8 is allowed. As mentioned about in #Complexity of email addresses, this really is a very nasty problem. Wrs1864 20:59, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
