User talk:Dwaipayanc/Archive7

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[edit] Indian cities project!

Sure go ahead! WP:BB. Featured article writers would obviously be knowing the parameters better than most others ;) =Nichalp «Talk»= 04:39, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

Earthquakes: I found one link [1] which has a little info. I keep reading about the zones in the newspapers so information should be available in media sites. About the project, other than healthcare, what sort of additions can you think of? =Nichalp «Talk»= 04:56, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
Reading your comment on Nichalp's talk page I got inspired to create Earthquake hazard zoning of India. - Aksi_great (talk) 07:13, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] My RFA

Hi Dwaipayanc/Archive7,

Thank you for supporting my RFA! Unfortunately it did not succeed mainly because most opposers wanted me to spend more time on Wikipedia. Thank you for your faith in me & looking forward to your continued support in the future.

Cheers

Srikeit(talk ¦ ) 09:27, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] SA\SACs

Hi, I read through the pages you gave but am still not sure what you want me to do. Thanks. Saravask 21:11, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] superthanks

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Hi Dwaipayanbhai - I'm very sorry to have disappointed your expectation in me, but it had become impossible for me to compromise my principles. I don't covet adminship at all, so it wasn't a difficult decision - I simply cannot accept misrepresentation and nonsense. However, I cannot tell you how greatly joyous I feel at the enthusiastic, wonderful support you expressed for me. I don't know how hard it will be to understand that your supports means extremely a lot to me. I thank you from my heart, and please let me know if I can ever be assistance or help in anything.

[edit] Thanks

Hi Dwaipayanc, thanks for supporting my request for adminship! Unfortunately, it ended with a final tally of 45/15/2, no consensus. I may have another go in the near future, once the school year is over. Thanks again! -- getcrunkjuicecontribs 23:00, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Delhi

Hey Dwaipayanc. Apologies for the late reply. I think the article is ready for a peer review. The only major work left in my eyes is creating an article on Municipal Corporation of Delhi and New Delhi Municipal Council. Any suggestions?? Cheers --Incman|वार्ता 00:10, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the note. I think shopping in Delhi is one thing which definitely deserves its own sub-section atleast. It forms an integral part of Delhi's culture. An article on Delhi is incomplete without describing shopping areas like Chandni Chowk, Lajpat Nagar, Sarojni Nagar, Greater Kailash, Connaught Place and Dilli Haat. India is perhaps the most diverse country in the world and having one code for all Indian cities is not justified. Sports too is a part of the city's culture and giving it a seperate section is perhaps a bit too much. Regarding subsections, I don't know why it should not be there. Is there any logical explanation or is it just a thumbrule followed by the concerned Wikiproject? There are several featured articles on other non-Indian cities which have subsections. I used the article on Canberra as a model for this article. Again, it is completely unjustified to have the same standards for all Indian cities. --Incman|वार्ता 04:27, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for the quick reply. In that case, the article should not be put up for Peer Review until the dispute is resolved. I don't mind taking up the matter to the WikiProject. Cheers --Incman|वार्ता 04:50, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
A very important point has striked my mind. The article is on the National Capital Territory of Delhi which is a special union territory and not a city as such. So the article should not necessarily abide by the rules of WikiProject Indian cities. --Incman|वार्ता 05:14, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Ok, I get your point regarding the disadvantages of having so many subsections. Below is a new layout in accordance with the guidelines of WikiProject Indian cities:

==Origin of name==

==History==

==Geography==

===Climate===

===Urban structure===

==Government and politics==

==Economy==

==Demographics==

==Culture== includes combined subsections art, festivals, cuisine and shopping. Will create new article on Shopping in Delhi and merge Markets in Delhi with it.

==Utilities and media==

==Transport==

==Sports==

==Education==

However, I still prefer the present layout. I was going through the culture section in Kolkatta article and realized that it too had separate paras on cuisine, festivals etc. Subsections help organize the artcile making it easier to read. The culture section in the Kolkatta article is too long and if it was divided into subsections, it would have been easier for a common reader to go through the article and find the topic of interest. For example, if I want to know about Kolkatta's cuisine, I don't have to go through each and every para in the culture section to find info on cuisine. Also, it is highly probable, that since I don't find cuisine in the contents list, I won't read the article and instead find info on cuisine on several other articles on the internet on Kolkatta. Besides, one should be smart enough to know that cuisine is a part of city's culture. Thanks --Incman|वार्ता 00:47, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

That's fine with me. Thanks for guidance :) --Incman|वार्ता 01:56, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
Well, I am a student of Purdue University, Indiana and presently my summer break is going on. I am staying with my parents in Gurgaon. I stay up early because I am still suffering from Jet lag (Indiana is about 11 hrs behind India). Well I will take some time to get rid of this Jet lag. Yeah, I have heard about this ongoing reservation dispute. Hope your stay in Delhi is going well. --Incman|वार्ता 02:13, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] My friend

I would really appreciate your comments on Schatzki ring and Fundic gland polyposis when you get a chance. Thanks, and sorry you didn't get a chance to get the Kala azar question on WP:PINQ. -- Samir धर्म 05:06, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels

I noticed that you left a comment at the project, but unfortunately at the wrong page. You left your comment at the talk page of the General Forum subpage, but actually comments related to the project are supposed to go into the GeneralForum subpage itself. The talk page is kept for discussing the mechanics of the GeneralForum, not matters related to the project in general. Loom91 07:31, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ghaziabad

Hey, thanks. It's still an initial revision but I used the Indian cities template so it is just a little structured. Also, I could not find some information maybe someone else can fill in the gaps.

Who all can review articles? Anybody? --Aneesha 11:36, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Darjeeling revision

Very well done. I just came back to Wikipedia now; I'm sorry that I missed all the fun. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Major Danby (talkcontribs).

[edit] revamp on CU

Please see my response in User talk:LordGulliverofGalben. Sorry for the delay

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[edit] Indian freedom fighters

Yes I noted what happened yesterday, and while Category:Indian activists is a poor choice, I think there had to be a renaming, becoz many of those included in the cat were not freedom fighters. Let's discuss a better name, but I don't think there is reason to dispute what happened. Rama's Arrow 18:35, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

That is exactly the problem with the title "Indian activists." Frankly, I think its gonna have to be something like "Indian revolutionaries" for Gandhians and revolutionaries, with a master cat of "Indian political leaders (1857-1947)." Rama's Arrow 18:43, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
I'll work on this by tomorrow. Also, Patel's FAC will go up tomorrow. I've finally completed adding info about his role in partition times, and now I must do the copyediting as per the recommendations of others. I'm a bit sad that even though I've been around most of the while, my editcount and contibutions have been much lower for this month than I orginally planned. Somehow I just couldn't get to finishing the Patel FA drive, not to speak of IIM and others. Rama's Arrow 18:45, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
There should be a cat for "Gandhian revolutionaries" and "Indian revolutionaries." There was no other group working for independence. The revolutionaries of the 1857 rebellion already have separate cat. Rama's Arrow 18:49, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
I hope you can contribute 1-2 FAs before you go off for your June exams. Good work on Darjeeling, but I think you can do one more. Rama's Arrow 18:52, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
Yes I think that'll work (for the categories). Rama's Arrow 18:53, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
At least one fellow here has his priorities straight. We've 5-6 people "out on exams" who still make 10-20 edits each day. Rama's Arrow 19:00, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
As I do not consult this page regularly, I did not see your notes earlier. Of course I want this category to be restored to its initial form. 'Activists' is not always a compliment. 'Fighters for India's Freedom' seems to be adequate. All the best.--BobClive 09:16, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Portal:India

Hi,

I am quite saddened by the state of Portal:India as nobody seems to care about it. I am assuming the role of supervising the selection of Selected Articles, Today's Selected articles, etc. for the portal and will continue till there are enough people to start things going by consensus. I feel that this step of mine is essestial as currently the portal is orphaned and leaving it as such would hurt its featured portal status. You seem to be the only other person interested in the portal and I would be glad to work with you towards making it THE BEST portal on Wikipedia. Warm regards, -Ambuj Saxena (talk) 20:16, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sukh's RFA - Thanks!

Thank you for your vote on my RfA. Unfortunately there was no consensus reached at 43 support, 18 oppose and 8 neutral. I've just found out that there is a feature in "my preferences" that forces me to use edit summaries. I've now got it enabled :) Thanks again. Sukh | ਸੁਖ | Talk 15:43, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Kochi

Hello again! I've been working on the article based on the suggestions including yours that came up at the PR. I just wanted to clarify something. You had asked me to consider the usage of citeweb and citenews templates. Could you please tell me what their advantage over the traditional ref tag that I've used is? Thanks! -- thunderboltza.k.a.Deepu_Joseph |TALK 11:55, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Umm...okay. Thanks. So I guess I might as well get on the task of converting all the references. :( Also, do you know how much time I spent to get the referenences cited before the period. I thought it looked prettier that way. :((
On another note, do you think I should remove health care from the article? There arent many important educational institutions in the city, I fear. -- thunderboltza.k.a.Deepu_Joseph |TALK 15:45, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Request

Hey.

Im one of the new guys and I have an interest in some of your articles. I am doing a biography on the life of frederick barbarossa I, meaning redbeard. I ckecked wikipedia articles which were good but there wasn't much info on his daily life and not even on other search engines. If you or any other wikipedians had the time to write an article on him that would be truly great.

Cya, 10widdse.

[edit] China Town, Kolkata

interesting article.--Dangerous-Boy 17:45, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Anti-reservation Protests

Hi,

A lot of material already exists in Reservation in India. I added a lot of info to it as well as to the Reservation policy in IITs article. I believe that most of the protest related material exists in them. -Ambuj Saxena (talk) 19:19, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ray

Just in case u missed my response on my talk page, peer review sounds a good thing. I am on a wikibreak as far as editing goes, but it will be nice to know what peers have to say. I hope you'll be able to get enough people commenting on it so that a constructive guideline is achieved. thanks,--ppm 19:19, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re

thanks,

maybe more links to articles would give the people the background needed, right ?

ashankar —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ashankar (talkcontribs).

[edit] Anti-reservation protests

Which img do you think should I put on the Main Page? All of them are more relevant than the flag that's currently there. Also, some of the images have the date on them still. Could you please photoshop them off.--May the Force be with you! Shreshth91($ |-| ŗ 3 $ |-| ţ |-|) 13:31, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] blocked

Yes, I blocked that one... thanks for your help on vandalism patrol! :-) Antandrus (talk) 17:23, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] AfD Kolkata trivia

Thanks for your support on the deletion of this article! I don't wish for any of the information within to be lost however, I realized the enormous amount of work it will take to integrate it all into relevent places in other articles. Therefore I felt like only an AFD would motivate contributors to do this. That being said, you could move this imformation into the talk page of the Kolkata main article or into a subpage of that article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kolkata/trivia) or in your user space. I also included to guides written by wikipedians on integrating trivia into articles within my nomination. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by The stuart (talkcontribs) .

  • In edition to Kolkata trivia I also listed Pink Floyd trivia, Madonna trivia, Rush trivia, That '70s Show (Trivia), List of John Lennon Trivia, Charmed trivia, London Underground trivia, Survivor Trivia, Green Wing trivia, List of Law & Order trivia, The Amazing Race trivia, List of Trivia about Hungarian producer Gabriel Pascal, and Sengoku Period Trivia for deletion. --The_stuart 21:06, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
    • I started the mass trivia deletion in order to stir up discussion about it because of the reasons I stated on the AFDs. "Trivia" is simply not encyclopedic however the information might be. Currently Wikipedia has no official policy on trivia. However after this enitial round of AFD has concluded and a few of the articles have been dealt with I intend to contest the ones that failed to reach consens and push for an official policy on trivia. Obviously, incorporation is the best case scenerio for the info in these "trivia" sections. I beleive that all of the info is valuable and deserves a place in these articles. However, I also beleive that in alot of cases most people are just not intrested in taking the time to find an aporpriate place in the article for the info and so they put it in "trivia". Changing trivia to "intresting facts" would not be an acceptable solution. "Intresting facts" is again POV. All of the details of what should be done will hopefully be resolved with official policy after more debate and consensus. Right now, we just need to let all the AFDs close. --The_stuart 17:49, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Anti-reservation protests

Wow, I hadn't realized that it had developed to that extent... I caught a quick article on Canadian news at the time of the IIT Bombay hunger strike. Good luck on your exams! (Of course, your WP:PINQ answer was correct...)

I'm flying to the north of Canada tonight to help out with care in less-serviced medical areas for the weekend. Keeps me busy and tired. Take care -- Samir धर्म 20:19, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] I don't know if you have noticed...

I use inline references even for my userpage :) -Ambuj Saxena (talk) 20:58, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tibetan text

Displaying Tibetan text requires you to install a Tibetan font, which, I think, is not included in an Indic font package. There are several Tibetan fonts available on the internet, for instance at www.thdl.com. - Nat Krause(Talk!) 21:18, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Thanks a lot for the way you are giving inputs in IIT FAC. Its great. Mr Anwar has appeared once again! He is a very interesting creature. And his objections are gradually taking a relatively rational shape lately, rather than the earlier gibberish.--Dwaipayan (talk) 06:37, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

No need to thank. Just doing my part! Regarding Anwar, I do not find his arguments becoming rational. In fact, they might just be becoming more bizzare. All I see is bit more effort to make his objections appear to be more legitimate than they really are. --Blacksun 08:27, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WP:PINQ

Have set it up for round 5. Have a go! --Gurubrahma 08:56, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Enquiry

Hi,

I know you are online so asking you.

Can you explain in short when to use m:Cite.php and when to use {{inotes}}. I can't understand the use of inotes. What information is to be written in them and what's the point in naming them. -Ambuj Saxena (talk) 09:38, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Kochi

Sure. I'll do that. Thanks! -- thunderboltza.k.a.Deepu_Joseph |TALK 13:15, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sent you a mail

Hi,

I have sent you a mail as requested. Actually I think I already know what you want to say. -Ambuj Saxena (talk) 19:17, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] TS Peer Review

Hi, there ... thanks for the note on my talk page. I'm confused, though. Someone else nominated TS for peer review, and I didn't/don't feel it was/is ready just yet -- there is still more I want to do with it, and I am waiting for other editors to be available, and I'd like to see it receive a medical peer review by Wiki physicians. On the lead (and other pending issues), I am waiting for some editors who are on "Wikibreak" to be available to help, as it seemed to me (perhaps wrongly?) that leads on some of the featured medical articles are a bit different than on other kinds of articles. Also, the timing of the peer review caught me by surprise as I'm stretched really thin until I complete some travel in mid-June. I'm not really sure what is meant by me "wrapping up the review now" ... I'm not sure how I would do that, or if it is I that should do that (since I didn't nominate it for peer review)? (I'm still fairly new to Wikipedia.) Any advice you can give me is welcome ... TIA. Sandy 00:33, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] India

Dwaipayan, I dont understand why you are ready to accept their silly statements that India was not there historically , was a british creation etc etc. 1.If India was not there historically, then to which place were the european countries in the 14th and 15th century , trying to find the sea route ?? 2. Why did columbus name the natives of America as "indians"??? 3. As coming to our national identities, we see it as a land where our dharmic traditions rule.(for eg. Sankaracharya establishing his four 'math's at four corners of our nation etc).

Surely sankaracharya did this before the arrival of brutish "saviours". I can list such examples on and on . But i wonder why ppl like you so readily accept this "so called " facts .Bharatveer 07:22, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] image problem

Image:Candlelightmarch.JPG is a cc-by-nc-2.5 licence which is not allowed on Wikipedia. --Nichalp 07:56, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Mauthausen-Gusen

Thanks for your support. As to the tables not showing up properly thing: what is the screen resolution you use? //Halibutt 09:58, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, that's what I thought. I asked at the article's talk page for someone with a screen resolution such as yours to drop in and fix that. BTW, I tried the suggested method of contacting you, but it seems my voice is not strong enough :) //Halibutt 14:41, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Freedom fighters cat

As far as freedomfighters cat is concerned, I'll put up a case for deletion review in a couple of days or so. You seem to be doing some great work on reservations! --Gurubrahma 10:09, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

Didn't know where to put up the case - see Wikipedia_talk:Category_deletion_policy#Deletion_Review, though I saw only articles and templates in the DRV page. Probly we shd ask for renaming in that section itself. Also, I was tied up with Ganeshl's rfa. The cat "Indian activists" looks very constraining actually and gives me images of Medha Patkar or Arundhati Roy, not freedom fighters :( I'll prepare a case hopefully by tomorrow evening. --Gurubrahma 17:56, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Kolkata

I'll see what I can do. Saravask 17:06, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Blnguyen's RfA

Hello Dwaipayanc. Thank you for your support at request for adminship and your gracious statement in my Editor review was also highly influential, as it was quoted by many RfA participants and strongly contributed to the overwhelming and flattering result of (160/1/0) was in large part, and leaves me in a position of having to live up to a high standard of community expectation. If you need help with admin related tasks, feel free to ask me - and of course, if I make any procedural mistakes, feel free to point them out. Of course, I look forward to working with you in the future. Blnguyen | Have your say!!! 06:14, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] South Indian Culture

I see that you have created the article South Indian culture.Dont you think this should be a part of a bigger article Indian Culture. ?? Pls give your views on this. Bharatveer 13:50, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

If your point is in portraying the incredible diversity, then i think seperate articles for kerala culture , tamizh culture and andhra culture should be there instead of this whole South Indian Culture.My opinion is that it would be better if it is kept as a part of the article indian culture .

As for suggestion to go to the other user's talk page , i dont think any thing would come of it as he is very obsessed with the german word "weltanschaaung" .Bharatveer 14:33, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Reservation etc

Yeah, I went through the Mandal Commission. Nicely done! But, in my opinion, the point-wise arguments in reservation is better for the reservation article. Still, It just seems to attract a lot of poor edits, so I think we should keep an eye on that to maintain its quality. siddharth 17:19, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] ISRO

Hi, Dwaipayanc, recently someone has edited the ISRO article on the Indian space programme - alegedly to reformat it - but as of right now, half of the article seems to be missing, and I am not sure why this would be neccecary to edit it - the only addition this person has made is not perticularily relevent to an article which was pretty good before. Ive notaced that you have reverted other articles automatically, which I dont know how to do, so I was wondering if you could revert the ISRO article to the last unvandalised edit, if it is still in this state when you recieve this message - 06:46, 30 May 2006 Ejvyas (→History) - seems to be the edit that changed the article. Thanks, Vastu 18:00, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

ISRO reversion done. Somebidy truncated the article during editing! Please see the talk page also. I've communicated with Bharatveer who did some minor edits inbetween the truncated version and reversion to full version, because his edits had to be reverted also, unfirtunately. Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 19:15, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
Thanks man :-) Vastu 19:53, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re:Plans

Hi Dwaipayan - thanks for your compliments - it is indeed a long-awaited, moment of happiness right now! I've already nominated IIT and Patel for WP:TFA. Right now Sukh and myself are working to make Sikhism an FA. I was a bit disappointed that Pournami and co. dropped K. R. Narayanan's FA drive (for whatever reasons). I know about South India and Delhi - there are many in a good position. Plus, it is Shreshth's dream that his hard work on Fundamental Rights, Directive Principles and Fundamental Duties of India results in FA status. Your help is especially needed on the latter as Shreshth himself is pressed for time - Ambuj and I are trying to solve some of the outstanding issues.

I just discovered the happy convenience of picking up a book or two from my local library and writing an FA on the subject. Its an absolutely magnificent way of learning a wide array of subjects very well. Even though June will be extremely, extremely important and busy for my priority work and main pursuits, I hope that I will churn out at least 1 FA a week from now on - which is a better rate than ever! Rama's Arrow 05:46, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The Endo Unit is now open!

Hi Dwaipayan, sorry to bug you during your Wikibreak. Please check out WikiProject Gastroenterology when you get a chance. Cheers -- Samir धर्म 08:18, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Iqbal

Hi Dwaipayan - I request you to please have a look at Muhammad Iqbal. I need your help in making this an FA. Rama's Arrow 12:27, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

That is indeed a coincidence! What attracts you to Iqbal? Rama's Arrow 13:10, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
Tell me now or else I'll start an FARC for Kolkata! (hehehehe...but seriously, spill the beans!) Rama's Arrow 13:13, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
Iqbal's views did not change, but evolved in a straight line. I don't claim to know why he wrote "Tarana-e-Hind," but he was very young then and the poem is not suggestive. Iqbal's views developed in a strictly religious line in the years after the poem was written, and he came to hold the view that "Muslim civilization," as opposed to a nation of Hindus, Muslims, Sikhs, various ethnic communities, was the only tenable (and worthwhile) political entity. Iqbal was not only a proponent of the political independent of Muslims of India, but also of the political revival and general unity of all Muslim nations, as a common Ummah.
Sadly, as V. S. Naipaul suggests, Iqbal was thus implying a rejection of Hindu society and Hinduism - asserting that Muslims just could not live in an un-Islamic society with un-Islamic people. Iqbal believed deeply in Islam, not just the scripture but in the metaphysics and philosophy, which would create a "spiritually awakened" society - again, he implies that spiritual awakening is impossible for non-Muslims. This combines the proselytyzing zeal of Islam with the legal concepts of Shariat which are supposed to govern society. Almost all poems Iqbal wrote are entirely suggestive of these ideas.
Perhaps you might be interested in a very superb book - "Beyond Belief: Islamic Excursions Among the Converted Peoples" by V. S. Naipaul. It is tremendous and superb in its exploration of Muslim pysche in Asia. Rama's Arrow 13:37, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
And Iqbal wasn't the first in this line of thought (he was only the first to propose partition) - the ideal society was envisaged by Muslim intellectuals as being completely founded on Islam, and thus excluding or eliminating of non-Islamic cultures, philosophy and religion. The religious objective of Islam thus combines with the political objectives of Muslim societies in many places. Rama's Arrow 13:41, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
Mind you, even though this explanation may portray Iqbal as a bigot, I regard him as one of the most brilliant minds of his era. His whole life was the pursuit of salvation. It was purely amazing to come to understand how Iqbal's works covered a wide array of subjects, beautiful literary and poetic compositions and wonderful styles of writing, unveiling a complex, deep and rich thinking that covered religion, philosophy, politics, individuals and society all at once! Iqbal saw a global ummah as salvation, and Pakistan was a stepping stone in that direction. Rama's Arrow 13:51, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
Hinduism is the endeavour to discover God - throughout its history, it has been characterized by different attempts to discover and expain God - such as animism and worship of natural phenomena, God-kings, atheism (the Shramanas), asceticism, etc. Unlike other religions, it cannot be defined by the people who are its adherents, but by this core endorsement of human endeavours to discover God. Thus, it flows in confluence with the wonderful philosophy of Jesus (who I personally revere) and the faith of Muslims, who are unparalleled in their devotion. It covers all the sciences, maths, arts, everything. Thus, I don't feel offended by Iqbal's thinking even though I know that when put into practice, it will have to be oppposed. Just yesterday I commented to Sukh on how Guru Nanak's philosophy is strikingly and eerily akin to the message of the Bhagavad Gita. Even if God didn't speak it to Arjuna, the Gita is IMO, the most fascinating work I've ever laid my eyes on. Rama's Arrow 14:00, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
Even a deeply rational, scientific analysis of the Gita is possible, and the results may leave one breathless! Rama's Arrow 14:02, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
Sorry for the sermon. Its a common habit of mine to be unable to control thoughts on topics that personally amaze me. Rama's Arrow 14:03, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
Yeah sure - just email me whenever you want to talk. Dunno when your exams are starting, but all the very best! Stay away from WP for the duration! Rama's Arrow 14:08, 31 May 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Wikilinks

Hi again - I don't understand the wikilinking - some of those persons are not notable, and got nothing to say about them except their association with Iqbal. Rama's Arrow 14:18, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Syed Ali Akbar

Just discovered there are no categories created for Hyderabadis! And Sania Mirza does not exist!!!(joke, if you didn't get it) I never heard of him but added him to Indian muslims and Indian academics cats. See if that helps? --hydkat 19:55, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Hope not that angry that you'd launch a RFC :) --hydkat 07:41, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] removed naming from kolkata lead

Did the neccessary, please review !WoodElf 08:40, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Best of luck

for your exams. Loom91 08:43, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] HELP

HELP on the Status of religious freedom in India article...it needs major work.WoodElf 15:55, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanx, have contacted others-

User:DaGizza User:Loom91 User:Rama's Arrow User:Pizzadeliveryboy User:Aabha R User:AMbroodEY

[edit] Quiz

Ha ha. No probs. ;-)
I'm kinda getting bored with Kochi. I've been completely rewriting all the sections - for the third time now. I'm still working on it in my sandbox. Get back to you later when I finish. I really appreciate all the help and guidence, Dwaipayanc. Cheers! -- thunderboltza.k.a.Deepu Joseph |TALK 08:09, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Poona Pact

Hi,

Sorry for the late reply. I saw your message but forgot to reply. The Poona Pact addition is perfectly fine. Regards, -Ambuj Saxena (talk) 13:54, 2 June 2006 (UTC)