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Great stuff there! As a resident of Dunedin for 25 of my most formative years, I was delighted to read the page.
There must be lots more famous Dunedinites... - wasn't Janet Frame born there?
[above text copied from Talk:Dunedin, New Zealand]
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[edit] Suburbs
A thought about the suburbs... With the three main centres, it makes sense to have separate articles for separate suburbs, With Dunedin, there are quite a number of suburbs that are writing something about, but I doubt that many of them warrant a full article. What I propose to do (unless there's any strong objections) is write an article called Suburbs of Dunedin, New Zealand, and give each of them its own subheading and paragraph or two. If necessary they can be moved to their own articles later, and it avoids having nine or ten new stubs. Good idea, or is it better to write separate articles now? Grutness|hello? 
06:17, 20 Dec 2004 (UTC) (copying this article to Talk:Wikiproject NZ places, too)
- well, it's now one week later (almost to the minute), and there's been no-one saying "Don't do it!", so the article's on its way. Grutness|hello? 06:35, 27 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Some of the late additions are out of order or even in the wrong group. One example - Halfway Bush is more outer than Bradford, surely? (OK, tell me I should fix them; but hey I didn't even attend the Labour Weekend 48th anniversary gathering of my classmates chaired by the Mayor! I'll fix them if nobody closer does soon.) Robin Patterson 04:48, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
- Good point. Basically anything beyond the inner range of hills is probably dbest described as an outer suburb. I've been wondering whether it's time to start breaking out some of the main suburbs for their own pages, too - probably not all of them deserve separate pages, but a decent article could be written on somewhere like St. Kilda. The main Suburbs of Dunedin page is still a good guide though. Grutness...wha? 07:17, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] most remote...=
I've just removed the following recently-added line:
- Dunedin is the most remote city in the world from Western Europe. The distance from London is 19100 km.
Dunedin is remote, but this is just too vague. Dunedin and Invercargill are almost exactly equidistant from London, Auckland's most remote from Gibraltar, and Wellington is almost exactly antipodean to Madrid. "Western Europe" is just too vague for this to fly. Grutness...wha? 22:58, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
I would scrap the whole paragraph about Dunedin being remote. I live in Dunedin and it doesn't seem remote to me. In terms of being remote from London or Western Europe, what meaning does this purely geographic remoteness have in the age of jet airlines and modern infrastructure? It would be more sensible to call a place remote that was physically hard or time consuming to reach, e.g. the middle of the Taklamakan desert. [MMS]
[edit] Separate History of Dunedin page?
There's been some good expansion to the history section lately - so much so that it might be worth breaking it out into a separate page and leaving only a summary here - any thoughts? Grutness...wha? 00:57, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
I think that's a good idea. The history is getting a bit bulky for the main Dunedin page --Griggonator 16:08, 4 July 2006 (UTC) Griggonator
[edit] Population
Leave the correct information of dunedin Population, as the older version was inaccurate and needed to be corrected, do not change it! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 202.180.118.160 (talk • contribs).
- It would help considerably if you could give the source of your information. The previous 2006 figure is correct according to the spreadsheet downloadable from stats.govt.nz. I'm not sure where the 2005 figures comes from.-gadfium 00:14, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Dunedin music scene in the 1980s
I've just removed the following new addition to the page, which was immediately after the paragraph about the growth of the "Dunedin Sound" in the 1980s:
- Also at this time, there was what could be described as an "anti-Dunedin sound" core developing, in reaction to the perceived elitism of the Flying Nun clique, comprised of such groups as Let's get Naked, Cactus Club and number of other unsigned, but popular bands.
This is misleading, to say the least. Let's Get Naked, Cactus Club, Gamaunche, Craig Watt, Working With Walt, Wreck Small Speakers, and many of the other Dunedin bands of the era worked alongside Flying Nun bands, and although their sound was far more diverse than that usually associated with Dunedin Sound, they tended to be grouped under the same umbrella, especially by the music scene outside Dunedin. Certainly the development of most of these bands was not "in reaction" to anything related to Flying Nun, but was instead simply in the interests of a wider music scene. Small record labels like Rational and Xpressway produced a reasonable number of these bands (so they could hardly be called "unsigned"), and in many cases compilation albums by these labels featured tracks by artists who were also connected with Flying Nun. A case in point is Xpressway's "Killing Capitalism with kindness" album, which has tracks by everyone from A Handful of Dust to David Kilgour. Other artists worked directly with both Flying Nun and smaller Dunedin labels (David Mitchell, the Jefferies Brothers and Alastair Galbraith, to name but four of them). Grutness...wha? 12:06, 29 January 2007 (UTC) (former lead guitarist and vocalist in two or three mid 80s Dunedin bands)
[edit] Fourth largest city in the world by land area?
This article (in its Geography section) claims that Dunedin is the fourth largest city in the world by land area. I've also heard "fifth-largest" quoted elsewhere. However, comparing the land area (3314.8km²) to the areas listed at List of cities by surface area, Dunedin would be around position #26. Does anybody have a reference for this claim? --Ghewgill 18:52, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
- Hmmm. Odd. I've always heard it as fourth largest - and also heard Mt Isa (Australia) being the biggest. perhaps there has recently been some sort of regional reorganisation in China, since most of the ones on that list 9to which I've now added Dunedin) seem to be in the PRC... Grutness...wha? 22:37, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
- That list seems slightly problematic. For example, nowhere in Wood Buffalo, Alberta is it described as a city, but as a very large non-dividable municipality. Similary prefecture-level city suggests that such administrative units are not really cities. On the other hand, there's quite a nice list here [1] of populations, land areas, and population densities that avoids the silliness of legal boundaries, and measures conurbations and developed urban areas. Of course, by that definition, the largest city in the world is the tri-state area. It also has Sydney well ahead of Mt Isa, and gives Dunedin an estimated 85km2. However, depending on what you consider a city, by some measures, Dunedin probably is around number 4. --Limegreen 23:53, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Tourism Dunedin is Dunedins Official Tourism Website
The claim that dunedintourism.co.nz is the official tourism website of dunedin is incorrect.
'Dunedin Tourism' a trust operated by The Dunedin City Council a division of government is the official website of Tourism in Dunedin.
This needs to be changed immeadiately!
Regards
Adrian McCaffrey
Online Marketing Manager Dunedin Tourism
Tourismdunedin 01:56, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
