Talk:Duncan Sheik
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[edit] Duncan Sheik
Article tagged for speedy delete by User:Duncharris. Not a speedy candidate, so I moved it here. Meelar 22:56, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- VERY MUCH a speedy delete candidate. I would have deleted it had you not moved it here. Delete. RickK
- Vanity pages, even poorly written ones, are NOT candidates for speedy deletion. They have to go through VfD, because of things like this. A grammy nominee is certainly worthy of an article. Meelar 05:11, 6 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- A great guy who spends his time writing music. He was born on November 18, 1969 in Montclair, New Jersey. He is married and loves to play the guitar. He's even won some awards and money for his music. is definitely worthy of speedy deletion. RickK 06:11, Jun 8, 2004 (UTC)
- It does no harm to put these through vfd instead--and thus give them wider exposure, to see if an article is worth saving. Meelar 13:33, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- A great guy who spends his time writing music. He was born on November 18, 1969 in Montclair, New Jersey. He is married and loves to play the guitar. He's even won some awards and money for his music. is definitely worthy of speedy deletion. RickK 06:11, Jun 8, 2004 (UTC)
- Vanity pages, even poorly written ones, are NOT candidates for speedy deletion. They have to go through VfD, because of things like this. A grammy nominee is certainly worthy of an article. Meelar 05:11, 6 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- Delete no comment--[[User:HamYoyo|HamYoyo (Talk)]] 23:51, Jun 5, 2004 (UTC)
- Keep, has an entry on All Music Guide. Subject for cleanup. Fredrik (talk) 23:54, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- Keep, notable. It's been stubbified, not great but much much better. --Starx 23:55, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- Keep, new stubby version is fine, certainly notable. -- Finlay McWalter | Talk 23:58, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- Original version was garbage. New version needs help, but is a stub. Keep. -- Cyrius|✎ 00:00, 6 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- Keep, I've certainly never heard of him, but if got a Grammy nomination, I think he's notable enough to have an article. —Stormie 00:10, Jun 6, 2004 (UTC)
- Depressingly, I knew who he was from name alone. Keep. Snowspinner 00:22, Jun 6, 2004 (UTC)
- Keep. I agree with Stormie's reasoning. Andris 01:02, Jun 6, 2004 (UTC)
- Keep. A Google Search for "Duncan Sheik" gets over 37,000 hits [1]. I think that we need a new procedure where people should look at listing concerns about articles on the talk page/ and or the user page and wait for a response say for 24 hours before listing them here or on votes for speedy deletion unless it is obviously patent nonsense. I think that this would help sort out a lot of issues before they reach here.Capitalistroadster 12:39, 6 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- Keep. He's pretty well-known for that song "Barely Breathing." For a while, you couldn't get away from it on radio. He's at least as well known as many obscure bands that are still here. Joyous 04:38, Jun 8, 2004 (UTC)
- This wasn't actually an unreasonable listing - look at the article history. It was patent nonsense when it first appeared, and gave every indication of being a vanity article - especially as the article was created by "Duncan Sheik." It just happened to be about a real person. Snowspinner 05:59, Jun 8, 2004 (UTC)
- Agree that the original listing was utter garbashky and deserved a speedy. Looking great now. - Lucky 6.9 08:28, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- Keep (of course). Another example of the danger of marking things for speedy delete when one has no knowledge of the subject matter. Don't bite the newbies. Wikisux 09:03, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- I agree. There are a lot of poorly written articles on legitimate topics. The policy should just be to stub these. - DropDeadGorgias (talk) 12:26, Jun 8, 2004 (UTC)
- It deserved vfd, but had it been speedied we would have lost an article. Meelar 13:30, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- Not really. We didn't have an article on Duncan Sheik before the rewrite. We had an article titled Duncan Sheik, but it didn't really have any use as an article about him. If it had been deleted, we would have simply not had an article about him or using his name. No big. Snowspinner 20:05, Jun 8, 2004 (UTC)
- And indeed, while it's obviously better to rewrite a worthless article than to delete it, I think it's better to delete it than to do nothing. Better to have a red link inviting people to write an article, than a blue one inviting them to click on it and find nothing but crap. —Stormie 05:36, Jun 9, 2004 (UTC)
- Not really. We didn't have an article on Duncan Sheik before the rewrite. We had an article titled Duncan Sheik, but it didn't really have any use as an article about him. If it had been deleted, we would have simply not had an article about him or using his name. No big. Snowspinner 20:05, Jun 8, 2004 (UTC)
- It deserved vfd, but had it been speedied we would have lost an article. Meelar 13:30, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- I agree. There are a lot of poorly written articles on legitimate topics. The policy should just be to stub these. - DropDeadGorgias (talk) 12:26, Jun 8, 2004 (UTC)
- Keep current version. Fairly well known musician. -Seth Mahoney 22:20, Jun 11, 2004 (UTC)
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[edit] Barely Breathing
This song was on the radio in the eighties, along with such songs as Alan Parsons Project "Eye in the Sky" and Eagles' "Hotel California". I am not sure why everyone seems to date the song to the nineties, but it most certainly was a song present on the radio during the eighties, perhaps as a sole single released by an artist whose lyricism and musical arrangements were as timeless as other masterful pop musicians.
[edit] Should his producer credits be added or previous background vocal credits?
- Should his producer credits be listed? For example, he produced Custom's album "Fast" in 2002 (he also did background vocals on the album).