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[edit] my request to block 212.219.82.37

Hello. I have a question: When is a vandal blocked long-term? I reported 212.219.82.37 but you removed the request because the vandal has not vandalized in 4 days. But this user's contributions is exclusively vandalism over many months. So, when is he supposed to be blocked? Thank you. -- Mareklug talk 23:56, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

Anonymous IPs are usually not banned for very very very long times, but that wasn't my point. My point is that WP:AIV is for "inmediate-like" action, thus it says

Please do not list a user here if: 1. They have not vandalized multiple times very recently

I understand it is listed on WP:VIP, but he seems to have stopped. If he returns, when you see him vandalizing, run and post it to WP:AIV (and also if you like drop me a note here) so we stop him in real time.
The full blocking policy is at [[1]] from where I quote:

Sysops may, at their judgement, block IP addresses whose users vandalise Wikipedia. For dynamic IPs, such blocks should last up to 24 hours. For static IPs, such blocks should initially last 24 hours, but repeat violators may be blocked for a maximum of one month; there are various rules of thumb by which sysops decide how far to extend the blocks of habitual vandals, none of which is formal policy. In general, casual vandals should be warned twice before being blocked, though warnings are not usually given for deliberate vandalism intended to discredit Wikipedia or serve an activist agenda. See Dealing with vandalism for overall policy. Logged-in users that do essentially nothing but vandalism may also be blocked for the same time periods. However, user accounts that perform a mixture of valid edits and vandalism should not be blocked in this manner. Blocks should not be used against isolated incidents of vandalism.

I understand what you are saying, but I have to disagree with you where you write: I understand it is listed on WP:VIP, but he seems to have stopped.. He has not stopped. It is his pattern to visit every so often and vandalize. If you look on his talk page you will see a pattern of many months of warnings all the way to test4 and one 24-hour block. So, in essence, he is ripe for a 30-day block. But what you are saying is that this won't be imposed unless he is caught in the act. Does that mean I have to be a policeman and continually look out for him? That is not my idea of a good time. Thank you. -- Mareklug talk 00:27, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
No, my point was that WP:AIV was not the place for listing it. That's all. WP:AIV is for inmediate action, as in vandals currently engaging in lots of vandalism who need to be stopped as of right now. I'm not discussing if he deserves a long block or not (I think he does), I'm only stating that AIV was not the place. That's all -- (☺drini♫|☎) 00:29, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
Then what is the correct place? I have looked and spent a fair amount of time trying to establish that. WP:AIV was the latest place where I turned to. So it is not the correct place, but what is? If you agree that he does deserve a long block -- and you do -- would you please block him for a month? -- Mareklug talk 00:39, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
The proper place was indeed WP:VIP. -- (☺drini♫|☎) 00:43, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
Dear Drini, there was no reaction to my post on WP:VIP, as seems to be the norm for that page (it seems backlogged). Considering that I now have the pleasure and honor of your attention, do you think you could help me in this situation? What do you suggest I do? -- Mareklug talk 00:49, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
If he has really stopped, there's nothing much to worry. If he returns, drop me a note as soon as you notice and I'll block him. -- (☺drini♫|☎) 00:50, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
  • Thank you. That seems reasonable. I'm afraid I will have to be in touch sooner or later. :) Take care, -- Mareklug talk 00:56, 1 October 2005 (UTC)


[edit] Charlotte Green

I'm sorry that you considered my contribution to the above page to be an act of vandalism. It certainly was not meant to be such; as to it being nonsense, both factoids are true. Given CG's status in the Radio listening community, certainly not irrelevant either. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Hickory 542 (talk • contribs) 18:36, 2 October 2005.

Are you referring to [2] ? I didn't say it was vandalism, It's just that it didint' look the most encyclopedic comment to me. Sorry about that. -- (☺drini♫|☎) 01:58, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Articles for deletion

Hi, I've noticed you've been putting a lot of nn band pages up for deletion, and I'd just like to say thanks for the hard work :) Mallocks 12:58, 3 October 2005 (UTC)


[edit] 212.219.82.37 revisited

Hello again, Drini. The persistent anonymous vandal we talked about and of whom you said to notify you so you can block him if he returns has come back and has vandalized again. He is 212.219.82.37 (talk • contribs • page moves • block user • block log)

Today he twice vandalized Talk:Main Page/Archive 1 by adding nonsense to the bottom of the page. Could you block him for a month? -- Mareklug talk 21:35, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

he's blocked already -- (☺drini♫|☎) 21:50, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Int Schs Invitational Basketball League

Hi Drini. Thanks for deleting "International Schools Invitational Basketball League" article. Unfortunately, the author created a temp page: International Schools Invitational Basketball League/Temp. Should it be deleted too? Thank you. *drew 23:04, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Stub

Did IP 210.81.198.209 really delete the entire Wikipedia:Stub project page??? Or am I misreading the edit history? Finell 03:35, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

If you refer to [3], no he didn't ""deleted" the page, (as only logged in admins can delete pages) but yes, he blanked it. -- (☺drini♫|☎) 03:42, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Block of User:Seanwookie

It's been undone now, so it doesn't matter much, but in the future it would be good if you'd avoid blocking until after there has been a warning in cases of non-persistant, non-highspeed vandalism. The user was just being childish, ... we need them to stop, true, but it's better that we not make any more enemys than we must. One month was also too long considering. The edits in question. Thanks. --Gmaxwell 19:48, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Template for newbies' copyvios?

What is the template for welcoming newbies that are posting copyvio material? Thanks. ≈ jossi fresco ≈ 05:43, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

Well, nowadays, blatant copyvios caught within the 48 hours of its uploading and whose edit history consist only on copyvio are speedy deleteable under criteria A8. The template ffor welcoming and explaining is Template:nothanks-sd which you use like {{subst:nothanks-sd|pg=titleoftheentry|url=urlfromwheretaken}} ~~~~ -- (☺drini♫|☎) 05:47, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Your a False Ass

Hey you,

Look you little no life scum, I didn't delete the Microsoft page. If you ever threaten me again with these false alligations, I will call my lawer. Love the site, don't love being falsely accused. I would hope this would be a beacon of light to any other readers who have been silenced by your rapeing of this most wise noble website. Your alligations of "vandalism" which is not true and they hurt. You have no hutspa! [4] —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Flighta (talk • contribs) 22:41, 5 October 2005.

If you were indeed 24.222.105.190 then you certainly did. Mallocks 22:52, 5 October 2005

[Please I'm telling you this wasn't me. I want an apology this is an outrage, I am a good web user!]—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Flighta (talk • contribs) 01:58, 6 October 2005.

Please read the italicised comments at the talk page in question, specifically the bits starting "If you are an anonymous user and feel that irrelevant comments have been directed at you..." and "Such an IP address can be shared by several users". For reference here is the entire user contribution list for that single ip, there are no edits that have been done anonymously on that ip that haven't been vandalism of Microsoft. Drini owes you no apology, any message left on that talk page was directed at a vandal using that IP address. Mallocks 11:17, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] How about some discussion

Lets make it True or False for starters

English Measures derive from Roman Measures? Roman Measures derive from Greek and Egyptian Measures? Greek Measures derive from Egyptian and or Mesopotamian Measures Egyptian Measures derive from Mesopotamian Measures?

If you answer at least some of the above as true then it ought to be possible to talk about systems of measures that preceeded the metric suystem without your freaking out

English Measures were independently invented? Roman Measures were independently invented? Greek measures were independently invented? Egyptian Measures were independently invented?

If you answer true to all of the second set it would be good for you to actually read some of the references I have given you.

Rktect 20:54, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

No I asked first: Please explainme (ON THE ARTICLE's TALK, it's the proper place) not here, why Epic of Gilgamesh is relevant to English units -- (☺drini♫|☎) 20:57, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

I had already answered you there, fair is fair, answere me here.Rktect 13:46, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

I agree there are some relationships, but that doesn't turn your ancient documents into references for the content on the entry. There's a difference between a related document and a reference. There you have. -- (☺drini♫|☎) 01:46, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] #en.wikipedia.vandalism

I cannot join that room in IRC. Something wrong? ≈ jossi fresco ≈ 01:30, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

I want to add to my page the thing about Counter Vandalism Unit on your user page. How do I add it?Template:Unsigned:Adam1213 --Adam1213 01:59, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

copy and paste the code from mine, then go to Cool Cat's page and add yourself. -- (☺drini♫|☎) 02:01, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

How do you do that signature ?Template:Unsigned:Adam1213

Go to my preferences, under "signature". Select Raw signatures on and put as nickname
-- ([[User:Drini|<big>☺</big>drini<big>♫</big>]]|[[User talk:Drini|<big>☎</big>]])

the smiley is done by typing &#x263A;, the musical note with 266B and the phone with 260E. Those are unicode hexadecimal codes. -- (☺drini♫|☎) 02:15, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

I have seen signatures with multiples colours in them do you know how I can do that? Template:Unsigned:Adam1213

Same way, you can add any html command you want on "Nickname" if you select "raw signatures" on. And please oh please ALWAYS sign whatever you write on talk pages by using ~~~~ -- (☺drini♫|☎) 02:31, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Fndamental rights

Can you please explain why you reverted my edits on the fundamental rights article?--May the Force be with you! Shreshth91($ |-| r 3 $ |-| t |-|) 09:23, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

My god, I made a mistake. I'm sorry, I've undone myself. -- (☺drini♫|☎) 01:51, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Request:

Can you please vote for our good old friend LordAmeth for his adminship here? I'm sure he would greatly appreciate having such a valued member of Wikipedia like yourself vote for him. Spawn Man 04:04, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

No thanks, I prefer not voting about users I don't really know much about. -- (☺drini♫|☎) 21:20, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

I'd like to know why I was contacted —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 12.210.85.78 (talk • contribs).

Sorry about the misunderstanding. I was under the impression that you were a friend of his. Silly me, wont happen again.... Spawn Man 23:38, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
Ah that wasn't my comment. But Ivote when I vote, no need to ask me to do (on RFAs or AFDs, or anything like that) -- (☺drini♫|☎) 01:16, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Accused of Vandalism I don't recall committing

You seem like quite the zealous anti-vandalism... guy, and judging from your picture you have mucho tiempo en tu manos. I just want to know what I did that was considered vandalism, since I only remember changing like 2 or 3 pages and all of them were sincere attempts to contribute. I'm expecting a quick reply, but don't need one.

Yeah apparentally it was a Numismatics page or something like that I've never even seen before in my life. I highly doubt it was done on my computer, but I am on a network that keeps telling me I have an IP Address conflict, so I guess that's a possibility... I think you might have just messed up though. It's OK, when you're searching as hard as possible for vandalism sometimes you just make a mistake, don't feel bad. Maybe you need a day off or something. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 12.210.85.78 (talk • contribs) october 10.

Oh, you're talking about this. I wonder why would I get confused. How about this one?. No, I didn't make a mistake. Those were changes done from the 12.210.85.78 IP address. If you're editing in good faith and don't want to get your contributions mixed up with others using the same network, I strongly encourage you to read Wikipedia:Why create an account? and then sign up for an username so your edits are attributed to you even if someone from the same IP address misbehaves. Ah, and please please sign your posts on talk pages -- (☺drini♫|☎) 21:18, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] User:68.62.3.73

I noticed you put a warning on this user's page. Please see vandalism to Patrick Duffy (Special:Contributions/68.62.3.73). If you are an admin, please block this user. Thanks. -- Dave C.talk | Esperanza 03:17, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

I see he's stopped an hour ago before the last warning, so I won't block him right now, but will do if he reincides soon. -- (☺drini♫|☎) 03:36, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Congratulations! You won the Rhodium MRAA

You may want to check my user-page, to find out how you won the Rhodium Medal of the "Most Reverted Admin Award". Any objections are welcome. Most reverted admin award 09:55, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] HANS device

unprotect it (preceding unsigned comment by 141.154.215.147 (talk • contribs) 18:49 october 11)

No. -- (drini's page|☎) 18:55, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
not optional. i order it (preceding unsigned comment by 141.154.215.147 (talk • contribs) 19:06 october 11)

[edit] Stub vandalism

Block 143.107.165.244 (talk • contribs • page moves • block user • block log) now he ignored your warning.Borisblue 18:54, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

Done -- (drini's page|☎) 18:55, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
also please delete this page he created: El Mundo, MedellinBorisblue 18:56, 11 October 2005 (UTC)


[edit] Hector Acuna

Hi Drini, are you 161.132.77.15? This user was blanking the page Hector Acuna.[5], [6] If you'd like to nominate it for AFD, please do so by all means; however do not blank the page. Thanks! encephalon 19:03, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

No, I'm not him, but I restored the afd nomination, since it seemed to me (I don't know why) a good faith nomination. -- (drini's page|☎) 19:14, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] banning 206.131.30.1

Please do not ban 206.131.30.1.

This is a computer in the media center of a high school that has a population of over 1000 and it would greatly irk future wikipedians. i understand that someone is using this computer to vandalize wikipedia, but it would also have a negitive impact on the school if you were to ban the address. thank you, --Akako 19:42, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

It would be a temporary block, but it would only be set if vadalism continues. However, please also keep in mind that school should have policies about good use of network resources. So you may want to notify computer staff to find out who was using that IP at that time so the one misbehaving can get a warning. -- (drini's page|☎) 19:51, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Your sig

Your sig is currently drini's page and the phone symbol; why not make it "(drini's page | page drini)"? - A Man In Black (conspire | past ops) 03:53, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

well... because... hmmm... I didn't think about that? -- (drini's page|☎) 03:57, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
Well, I figured that was the reason. It was a suggestion. ^_^ - A Man In Black (conspire | past ops) 04:08, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Grutness as collateral damage of block

Would it be possible to have the IP indefinitely blocked except when Grutness is logged in as himself? In other words, without an authenticated login from Grutness, an attempt to edit from the IP is blocked? --Nlu 08:46, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

that's what the blocker modification proposal is, when it blocks an anonip, it doesnt block signed up users. But as things are currently, not. -- (drini's page|☎) 08:48, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
Sounds like a great proposal. Where can I vote for it, if anywhere? :-) --Nlu 09:04, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
I don't think it's not in a voting stage anyway, and it depends on the devs I guess -- (drini's page|☎) 09:07, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
Heh - without realising that this was in the offing, I've just suggested the same thing myself at VPTechnical. Many thanks for all the warning messages you've left around the page about my IP - and sorry I got annoyed about the block. BTW, something odd - since the block's ben lifted, I haven't been able to create new pages (I get a "resource not found" message each time I try). Any idea what's up with that, or do I need to ask at the pump? Grutness...wha? 12:33, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

Hello, i would also like to voice my concern. I've rarely use Wikipedia, mainly to looks up several things in preparation for my finals in a few weeks. But I've just found out about this vandalism that's occuring on this same IP. I live in a large apartment complex in which i believe that are many users on the same IP address. I hope that this problem will get resolved shortly. I might talk to the building management and try find out who the vandal is and hopefully they will cancel their internet connection.

Regards,

John

Gruntness: I have no idea, pump would be better. John: yeah, I was wondering what kind of sittuation you were in (ip of a whole school, and apt, etc). May I suggest "stealing off wi-fi" perhaps? Anyway, if it's the same building nothing than a few metal bats can't solve ;) -- (drini's page|☎) 12:57, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

huh? you mean a baseball bat or something? So maybe i should approach the vandalist and ask him to stop. But i don't have any metal bats. I could bring a tennis racket and i got some sharp knives and a BB gun. Hmmmm maybe i should go threaten him to stop or something. Do you guys think that would be a bit extreme? - John —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 202.180.83.6 (talk • contribs) 13:38, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

Why don't you create a login ? You shouldn't be blocked (am I right ?). Lvr 14:05, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
no you're not :( that's exactly the problem, the ip is shared by many users the anon one is a vandal and thus the block affects the signed in users. -- (drini's page|☎) 14:50, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
Well, I've always advocated the creation of Special:Sendateamofgoonstothisipshousetoroughitup. - A Man In Black (conspire | past ops) 13:48, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

Hello, you guys will not believe what happened today. I was comming home from uni today and when i was going on the elevator, these two guys that was also in the elevator was talking about wikipedia and writing junk on it and getting banned and how you can edit the front page articles. They got off the 4th floor which means it's probably where the culprit lives. I was thinking of putting up a notice or go knocking on each apartment to see which one he lives in and ask him to stop - John

[edit] User:Jjjjjjjjjjjjj

Hi. I notice you blocked this user indefinitely. I am a newbie inexperienced admin still learning the ropes and I am absolutely not questioning the block. But what ruling were you referring to? Regards, RobertG ♬ talk 09:38, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

  • To the rule of common sense. I had banned a few minutes ago a couple of ips vandalizing the same articles as this ip a (which was just created and used only for vandalism) so I safely assumed it was the same guy(guys) vandalizing anonymous previously. -- (drini's page|☎) 09:40, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Who's barnstar

Hey, thanks for the barnstar. Though I am nowhere closed to being finished, and I'm sooo tired. Right now I'm going back through the backlogs again, so I won't be blocking the minutely ones for awhile. Hopefully you and any other admins awake can get them for a bit. Thanks again. ∞Who?¿? 10:53, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Bot

The Defender of the Wiki
The Defender of the Wiki

I know I said in the channel for everyone to award themselves an Anti-Vandalism barnstar from me, but you don't get one. You were so helpful in setting up the bot that you get the Defender of the Wiki. I appreciate your quick response and dedication. You're a credit to Wikipedia. -- Essjay · Talk 01:44, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Unblocked 0101yangl

Drini, I've unblocked 0101yangl. You couldn't have known this really, but they're part of a class editing the articles for an assignment.

However, I do have concerns about the quick trigger 3RR blocking because:

  1. You did not even leave a note or try to talk to User:0101yangl
  2. You blocked the person for 48 hours for a 3RR, and standard is 24 hours

Please be careful out there, and don't use the 3RR as something you have to do. It's not always required. Thanks. Fuzheado | Talk 07:36, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

Yeah but it's not all to blame on me, as he was removing lots of content, and he never used edit summaries nor discussed on the talk, so it seemed (from this side of the things) like vandalism. I take the blame for not dropping the note on the talk. -- (drini's page|☎) 07:46, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Thanks for the barnstar. I'm still learning the ropes but appreciate the welcome. Take care. --JJay 13:09, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you, Drini!

 Thank you for your support on my RfA, your patience around RC patrol, your relentless effort in housekeeping, your programming prowess, and for your very kind words. It is all sincerely appreciated. ≈ jossi fresco ≈ t • @ 15:16, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] FSF RFA

Thanks for your support. :)freestylefrappe 22:23, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Esperanza Spam

Hello Esperanzians! A few announcements.

The Advisory Committee election results are in. In tranch A are Acetic Acid and Flcelloguy. In tranch B are Ryan Norton and Bratsche.

My other annoouncement is that our founder, JCarriker, has founded Esperanza's sister project, Wikipediology. I have written two essays here (my name is Matt Binder). My essays are under Teenage Wikipedians and Anon Editors.

On behalf of myself and Jay Carriker and the other wikipediologists, I would appreciate it if you were to join.

Cheers Esperanza! Redwolf24 (talk—How's my driving?) 23:29, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Celestianpower is an admin

Thank you very much for your support - my bid (as you probably know) went swimmingly. I couldn't have asked for a better one. Thank you very much and I just hope I don't mess up! See you on IRC again soon... --Celestianpower hablamé 13:20, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject Mexico

Hi, there. I thought you might be interested in hearing about the creation of Wikipedia:WikiProject Mexico. Please take a look, sign up or not as you feel fit, but please keep it on your watchlist. Regards, –Hajor 20:50, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

I'm in -- (drini's page|☎) 19:36, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you

I just wanted to say thank you for your support of my admin nomination. I look forward to the time when our Wikipedia paths, blended in amity, cross once again. —Wayward Talk 05:28, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

You deserve it -- (drini's page|☎) 19:34, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] My RfA

Thanks for supporting my RfA. I will use my new powers wisely! --Wikiacc (talk) 19:12, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

I couldn't refuse ;) -- (drini's page|☎) 19:34, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] i'm sorry

Dear Drini,

I am very sorry for the things I have done that are bad. my IP is 130.253.237.147 and you reverted my edits. I am part of a crew which gives awards to the fastest un-vandalismers. You recieve a gold star! I was wondering if you could unblock my page - It kinda gets annoying when you're trying to find the officials who need the...

VGA

"Vandalism Go Away"...

Star! Thank you for your time. (preceding unsigned comment by 24.8.199.100 (talk • contribs) 22:38, 18 October 2005)

Huh? your page isn't blocked if I recall correctly... -- (drini's page|☎) 22:42, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Hermione1980's RfA

Thank you for your support on my RfA; I really appreciate it! I will do my best to live up to the trust you've shown in me. Thanks, Hermione1980 23:38, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] My RfA

Thanks, Drini, for your support of my RfA--even though I made the obvious faux pas of self-voting. I promise to do a good job using the keys to the janitor's closet. >: Roby Wayne Talk • Hist • E@ 01:51, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Barnstar

Image:Barnstar3.png

For great work efforts. Molotov (talk)
04:45, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

De nada, está bien por tu lo mereces. Gracias por el mensaje en español...podemos conversar al luego porque voy a dormir (acostarme). Buenas noches, Molotov (talk)
04:50, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Cyberjunkie's RfA

WikiThanks!

Hi Drini! Just wanted to thank you for supporting my RfA. I hope I will be able to live up to the confidence placed in me. --Cyberjunkie | Talk 04:59, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Userbox

I just found it a little coincidental that one of the userboxes was "This user DOES NOT have a policy of anihilation for vandals" when the box on my page says "This user has a policy of anihilation for vandals." I'm looking for a good image to go with the wimped down, er, "revised" message. ;-) -- Essjay · Talk 04:03, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

Ah well, I created that userbox precisely because as "antidote" of that anhiliation button ;). I hadn't noticed that "Be nice to vandals" was moved to "do not insult vandals", which makes even more sense and it's less confusing, so I updated the other button. -- (drini's page|☎) 04:04, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
Although as of now, the 2nd button (the antianhilation one) doens't make much sense, and nor does the flower, any suggestion for a replacement picture?. -- (drini's page|☎) 04:06, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

Hmmmm...What about a big smiley face, like the one I have for my newbies userbox? -- Essjay · Talk 04:31, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

Oh, I see how it is! You can have a *flamethrower* but I can't have a little nuclear bomb? Talk about unfair! ;-) -- Essjay · Talk 04:36, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
hahahahahhahahaa!!! -- (drini's page|☎) 04:37, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Flamethrower

It won't be that easy to get back, I've hidden it in my gallery protected by my vicious attack cat! All your flamethrower are belong to us! ;-) -- Essjay · Talk 04:48, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

What if I promise not to use it, just keep it by my living room as a souvenir? -- (drini's page|☎) 04:50, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

*Essjay rolls on the floor laughing* Sure, as long as you don't use it. WP:BNTV and all... ;-) -- Essjay · Talk 04:55, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] stats of afd

Oh, I don't much mind them being there if they're done properly. I saw the football-results-like "down to 8 debates and most of the rest are no consensus" stuff and just decided to remove them all because they were incomplete and out-of-date. The stats at WP:AFD/Old are also out-of-date but by much less than a manual update to the AfD front page. There's quite a lot of material on that page at the moment anyway, but if you ask User:Oleg Alexandrov if his bot could call by the page to update the stats whenever AfD/Old is updated, that would at least keep the two in step. I don't think we should have an update-the-count link on the AfD front page because of how often it would get pressed (uses someone elses server to update it) without providing much new info. -Splashtalk 05:06, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

yeah, makes sense, that "down to 8 debates.." also bothered me, that wasn't my intention -- (drini's page|☎) 05:09, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Drini - Thanks for your vote on my recent RfA. I really appreciate all the support. I hope that I will be able to live up to everyone's expectations. If you ever need anything, please ask. --best, kevin ···Kzollman | Talk··· 05:34, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Drini, thanks for your support on my RFA. I very much appreciate it. If you ever need anything, don't hesitate to ask. See you around! —thames 18:26, 20 October 2005 (UTC)Dri

[edit] PLEASE BLOCK 130.253.237.180

130.253.237.180 has constantly been adding comments and other things about Bush. Please block him for at least 24 hours. Thank you. Adam 21:23, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

No, he wasn't warned, I just did it a few minutes ago and he seems to have stopped. I'll keep an eye however. -- (drini's page|☎) 21:25, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] why did you delete 2990s

i made an article about the 2990s explaining that it is the last decade in the 3rd millenium, why did you delete it?

True, recreate it again, I won't speedy it. -- (drini's page|☎) 23:30, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Why are you reverting me at John Kerry?

Instead of reverting me, you ought to look at the edit history of Accountable 1135. A reasonable case could be made for vandal/sockpuppet there. As for Kerry, I am engaged in sincere efforts to improve that article. If you disagree, then please dialog with me on the Kerry talk page. Rex071404 216.153.214.94 00:40, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

Oh that one was a mistake, I apologize. -- (drini's page|☎) 00:42, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

If it was a true accident, please restore the the "POV check" tag. I had to insert an "NPOV" tag to replace it so as to avoid 3RR risk. However, "POV check" is more correct in this circumstance, so I am asking you to replace it. Rex071404 216.153.214.94 00:54, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

Can't you put it back again? your version also introduced a few minor grammar mistakes, and I'm a bit busy at the moment. -- (drini's page|☎) 00:58, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Thankis

Hey, thanks for reverting the vandalism of my user page. --Ragib 01:18, 21 October 2005 (UTC)


[edit] Delta Upsilon

Why did you delete my revisions to the Delta Upsilon section? Robert Scheib —The preceding unsigned comment was added by RobertScheib (talk • contribs) 09:16, 21 October 2005.

This reversion [7] was done because it was a copyright violation as you took the verbatim text from other site: [8] -- (drini's page|☎) 09:18, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] From a new admin

Thank you for your interest in candidates on RfA, and thank you for your interest in my recent candidacy. Although I don't think we've ever worked together on an article, I look forward to working with you in the future: perhaps in helping to resolve disputes. Let me know. --Gareth Hughes 10:34, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Thanks for the cookies, they're tasty! -- Essjay · Talk 10:37, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] ;-)

An aide in fighting vandals, per your request.
An aide in fighting vandals, per your request.

Per your request... -- Essjay · Talk 11:00, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you

Thank you Drini for your support in my recent request for adminship. It was successful thanks to you. I will strive to an open, approachable and transparent administrator. --Jcw69 18:17, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Accused of copyright violation

I wrote a brief article on my father and was found guilty of copyright violation even though the source page was one I had written on my own site. I have since deleted the page on my site as my interest is to see him listed here. However, the copyright violation remains in effect. What should I do? Thanks for any help you can offer. AlanFraser 20:59, 21 October 2005 (UTC) Alan Fraser

You should write an article about the subject, about all his life, with original words, trying to keep a neutral point of view (that is, stating facts, not opinions. For instance

"he launched the careers of countless talented doctors and researchers, all of whom benefitted from his brilliance in the classroom" is a subjective statement, a more neutral statement would be "many of his student became doctors and active researches".

Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, herefore articles should have an encyclopedic tone, whereas obituaries tend to praise the subject virtues (and not mention the not so virtuous ones, which are needed for neutrality). finally as copyright, keep in mind that text on wikipedia is licensed under GFDL which means ANYONE can modify it and it can also be used in commercial ways. Keep that in mind (this reasons was probably the reason of the copyvio notice as it's likely that such site had a (C) statement not compatible with GFDL. -- (drini's page|☎) 21:23, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

Thanks. I'll take another shot at it. I'm not aware of any restriction on the text but your advice on style is helpful. AlanFraser 07:47, 22 October 2005 (UTC) Alan Fraser

[edit] User:129.15.120.186

I appreciate you blocking the user, but as noted on talk page he was already blocked effective October 17, 2005. I am befuddled as to how he was able to edit NickBush24's RfA page and user pages after the block was effective. See his block log entries. Thoughts? --Durin 01:50, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

I really have no clue :\ -- (drini's page|☎) 17:09, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] test templates

I noticed you putting subst in my test templates. I'd like to know, is that really such a big deal?Borisblue 05:29, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

It is important, for a couple of reasons:
  1. It reduces server load; true, one template here or there doesn't mean much, but with the thousands and thousands of times those templates are used every day, it can add up. Further, assuming that we have, say, 10,000 pages with at least one of those templates on it, if any change, regardless of how small, is made to that template, all those pages will be recached, which wastes a lot of server resources.
  2. It is confusing for newbies to see a text message on thier page but find {{test}} in the edit box. Best to keep confusion to a minimum.
subst: is very important, and we should all remember to use it. -- Essjay · Talk 12:04, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
Essjay, I must respectfully disagree on the second count. I must say that when I started warning people, I found it very confusing to try to figure out which warning templates have been used and which have not been used; leaving the {{subst:test}} and {{subst:test-n}} series un-subst:d allows an easier way to tell. (For the longest time, for example, I couldn't figure out how the {[test-n}} series worked.) In addition, I also think that the rationale of not wanting to appear cookie cutter (which you did not mention but is often cited as a reason for using subst:) is in fact an argument against using subst:; I think we want the vandals to see immediately how easy it is to pile on warnings and warnings. --Nlu 16:48, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
Well, I agree with Essjay, and for the argument of see how many warnings... well you do that when loading the talk page and viewing, not when editing. So I'll continue to subst any unsubsted tempaltes I run across (besides, on an anoymous IP, what good is to know that 6 months ago someone gave him a test4 warn? that warn would not be in effect as of today and thus he would have to be rewarned. -- (drini's page|☎) 17:07, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
Another point in favor of not doing subst: that I just realized; some vandals have a habit of editing and mutilating warnings that are subst:d, not necessarily in a way that is easy to detect. --Nlu 23:01, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
with test messages, they can just delete them -- (drini's page|☎) 23:06, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
Yes, but then the deletion is so conspicuous that it's easy to revert. Not as much so if they edit subst'd templates. --Nlu 23:08, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Stylesheet question

Hi Drini,

Thanks for your welcome note.

I have started to work on the Calculus wikibook. It would be nice to be able to use css stylesheets to have a consistent way of presenting theorems/examples etc. Is that possible with this software?

Thanks Juliusross 17:40, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

That's a question I don't have the answer. Notice however that each user has its own css file that can edit to customize his wikipedia viewing (for instance, yours would be at User:Juliusross/monobook.css and mine at User:Drini/monobook.css. But accounts are not shared, so my changes to monobook on english wikipedia don't affect my viewing of other wikiprojects (I'd need to change my css on those as well). -- (drini's page|☎) 18:00, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
Thanks. I am really looking for stylesheets for pages not users. I think it is not possible, perhaps in a future version. Keep up the good work. Juliusross 18:38, 22 October 2005 (UTC)


[edit] User:Jmac800

I don't see how I am vandlaizing things but I am willing to discuss this. Just because you don't necessarily share a view with me doesn't make me a vandal. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jmac800 (talk • contribs) 02:00, 23 October 2005..

Beethoven was certainly no moorish [9]. Do you have references that prove otherwise? -- (drini's page|☎) 02:03, 23 October 2005 (UTC)


[edit] CVU Director

I've nominated you as CVU Director (see WP:CVU/E). Please indicate if you accept. --Nlu 19:16, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] CBW RfA

Thank you for voting on my RfA. If you have any concerns over my actions please let me know. CambridgeBayWeather 23:57, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Re:Wolf

Be aware, I have a crosier and I know how to use it. ; - ) -- Essjay · Talk 03:02, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] the wub's RfA

Thanks a lot for your support on my RfA but remember, "there is no mexicabal". the wub "?!" 13:44, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Titoxd's RfA

Thank you!
Thank you!

Thank you for supporting me in my RfA. I never thought I would get so much support! Thanks to your help, my nomination was the 10th most supported RfA in Wikipedia history. Now, please keep an eye out on me while I learn the new tools, ok? Thanks again! Titoxd(?!?) 17:32, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] O/V: Thanks For Viewing!

Thank you for viewing my user page. It's pleasant to know that someone finds me interesting enough to reply. Incidentally, do you think my ampersand unnecessary? I've used the character instead of the word because it spares users the effort of typing two extra keystrokes.

[edit] accused of committing vandalism

I was accused of commiting vandalism and I don't recall doing so. I did use this article as some research for a free enterprise paper, but did not change anything.

That's because you're not logged in, the message was left for whoever had your IP address back on Oct 6th. So a perfect time to say Welcome to Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia! You don't have to log in to read or edit articles on Wikipedia, but creating an account is quick, free and non-intrusive, requires no personal information, and gives you many benefits, including:
  • The use of a username of your choice
  • The ability to view all your contributions via a "My contributions" link
  • Your own user page
  • Your own talk page which, if you choose, also allows users to send you messages without knowing your e-mail address
  • The use of your own personal watchlist to which you can add articles that interest you
  • The ability to rename pages
  • The ability to upload images
  • The ability to customize the appearance and behavior of the website
  • The eligibility to become an administrator
  • The right to be heard in votes and elections
  • Your IP address will no longer be visible to other users.

We hope that you choose to become a Wikipedian and create an account. Feel free to ask me any questions you may have on my talk page. We hope you enjoy your time here on Wikipedia as a Wikipedian!. CHAIRBOY (☎) 02:11, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Yay!

Welcome back!
Welcome back!

You're back! Have some cookies! -- Essjay · Talk 03:56, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Automatic Reversion

Excuse me, but you may not notice that I am not vandalizing Biff Rose. The quote I added to the page is real, and I did provide a reference for it. You gave no reason for removing it. I feel that it gives an essential understanding of the man's esoteric thought process. 130.74.170.147 05:55, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

NO, it wasn't an automatic reversion, I checked. -- ( drini's vandalproof page ☎ ) 05:56, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
Then please tell me why you reverted it. It isn't vandalism, and you did it without discussion.130.74.170.147 05:59, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
I NEVER stated it was vandalism. I removed it just like you added it without further discussion. I don't think that quote should really go in the article however. -- ( drini's vandalproof page ☎ ) 06:01, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
With all due respect, I believe that per standard practice on Wikipedia, additions made in earnest generally do not require explicit justification (although I did include in the article that the quote was an indication to the subject's thought process), whereas the brisk removal of an addition made in earnest, particularly by an administrator, should be accompanied by some explanation. 130.74.170.147 06:13, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
For what it's worth, I would have removed that text block as well, from an editing standpoint it's really, REALLY not a good match for an encyclopedia article. Perhaps there are excerpts from it you could pick that would fit better? - CHAIRBOY (☎) 06:21, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
Yes, on reflection I think you're right. It doesn't belong there, and it would be better to link to it, or maybe just link to the message board, since Biff Rose does post to it frequently. I just find it disheartening when an administrator completely erases something of relevance to an article, rather than finding a way to incorporate the information in a manner that's in balance with what's already there and what belongs in an encyclopedia. That's why I call it automatic reversion, because it's just a knee-jerk reaction without any constructive merit. 130.74.170.147 06:35, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
Admins are also normal editors, and my changes were done in that sense. -- ( drini's vandalproof page ☎ ) 06:39, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] I need a favor

I was out for 3 days cause I had no lights in Hurricane Wilma and got Redwolf24 to protect my vandal riddin page. Now that Im back and no sign of nither Red or Essjay to unprotect my page anywhere I need u to unprotect it. Thanks --JAranda | watz sup 07:04, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

Sure sir! It's been done. -- ( drini's vandalproof page ☎ ) 07:05, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Kudos on the CV

Counter-Vandalism. You're faster than me at it. Kudos Sceptre 20:25, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

) thanks sir! -- ( drini's vandalproof page ☎ ) 20
30, 27 October 2005 (UTC)


[edit] Thanks a bunch

Thanks for taking over my "battle" with the troll Idorunet, now I can continue on my way. Private Butcher 20:57, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] what did you do ? redux

i am not infringing on copyright. as my earlier post had indicated, I am developing the nautical nellies website and am legally entitled to reproduce all content. as the subject of 'nautical nellie' is not listed on this site to my knowledge, it is acceptable for me, as an associate of and acting on behalf of the copyright holder, and owner of nautical nellies site, to define the term and to define it 'verbatim'... i have taken the offending page ( history.html) offline as proof. so ownership issues asside, the page is no longer online, and, I believe, you have no authority to remove my definition again. i want to include the 'nautical nellie' definition once again... will you delete it this time ? I like wikipedia and am a new contributor. The fact that my very first post was removed so quickly, irritates me...

The copyright notice is incompatible with wikipedia. You need to realize and mention on the talk page, that you acknowledge contributions to wikipedia aare licensed under GFDL and thus thy can be reproduced and used even for commercial purposes by third parties. However I didn't delete it for the 2nd time -- ( drini's vandalproof page ☎ ) 21:06, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Hi Drini

Thank you very much for fixing my userpage and maintaining the integrity of wikipedia by reverting bad and senseless edits, especially by that anonymous user. --StevenL 21:58, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Tonofedits

Turns out the height issue was caused by the font size set for the Infinity sign... nothing else mattered. Because the table was using em for measurement and had a large font size (em is a relative sizing format based off font size) it was causing it to show up wrong. Its fixed now :) ALKIVAR™ 04:13, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

thanks a lot! -- ( drini's vandalproof page ☎ ) 04:14, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

I hope they're paying you for this —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.91.231.69 (talk • contribs) 06:44, 28 October 2005.

[edit] Inca Empire? I never edited that page!

Sir,

There are more than a thousand users behind my company's firewall. I have so far created one article about my hometown and uploaded one copyrighted picture. I have absolutely no idea of that article simply because I'm not going to edit an article about something I don't know fully or about a topic I am not impartial and objective. In a next occasion you come across a page misedited, please ask before you shoot. Displaying such a non-positive attitude disencourages people to help grow and strenghten Wikipedia. Thanks, JewBask —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jewbask (talk • contribs) 11:53, 28 October 2005.

I didn't shoot the person. I shoot the IP address. IF thousands of people used the same firewall, it's logical that actions of a user get attributed to all of them. That's why it's encouraged to signup for usernames, so even if many people edits come from the same IP address, they are differentiated.
I see that now you've signed up for an username, so that mistake won't happen again, but I also request you to think before you shoot, the vandalism message was done to an IP address so it wasn't meant to be direct to an specific person, but to whoever that was causing the trouble at that time from that IP. -- ( drini's vandalproof page ☎ ) 16:52, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] God

VERY FAST revert! Well done! KHM03 18:54, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

* Grins * -- ( drini's vandalproof page ☎ ) 18:55, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] What?

What? "Reverted edits by Prodego to last version by 198.188.249.12"

Prodego talk 18:58, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

Block 198.188.249.12 (talk • contribs • page moves • block user • block log)

Prodego talk 19:00, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

Yeah it got caught in the middle of cleaning up the page (that was blanked a second befre) I'll block him -- ( drini's vandalproof page ☎ ) 19:03, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Dog article

I was wondering why you undid my cleanup edits of reproduction and feral dogs. Thanks --Waterspyder 18:58, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

Oh, that was a mistake on my part , I'm really sorry about that I?ll restore your edit. -- ( drini's vandalproof page ☎ ) 19:00, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

I was just really confused. (We're currently overhauling the article and trying to figure up where to break it up, so it' a little messy there right now). Thanks! --Waterspyder 19:02, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Sdlr

Sdlr has asked to be unblocked. Prodego talk 21:00, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

I'll reply on his/her page -- ( drini's vandalproof page ☎ ) 21:03, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

Actually I could unblock that user myself, but I wanted an admin for their expertice, and their ability to reblock.

Prodego talk 21:13, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

How could you have unblocked him given that you're not an admin? I'm curious because I don't se you at Wikipedia:List of administrators so you're not likely to be able to unblock. And as I explained on that page, I'm not removing the block. -- ( drini's vandalproof page ☎ ) 21:22, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

Log out and see the link on my user page. It might not work, I never tried, but I can get into the enter user name to unblock. Oh and I agree not to unblock him, I was just being nice :-).

Prodego talk 21:39, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

It dosen't work, so your right. I kinda expected that.

Prodego talk 02:10, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] CVU

How do I get into the Counter Vandalism Unit?
Voltaire|Talk|My Desk|[Français] 21:01, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

Just add your name on such page-- ( drini's vandalproof page ☎ ) 21:03, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
I was tryin to but it was drawing the source of the names from somewhere else. -Voltaire|Talk|My Desk|[Français] 21:05, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
Leave a note on the talk page ther commenting it -- ( drini's vandalproof page ☎ ) 21:10, 28 October 2005 (UTC)


[edit] Please unblock my IP address

Hi, You've blocked IP address 24.163.65.156 presumably because of my son's activities. Could you please unblock it. This creates an inconvinience to me, and I will tell my son to concentrate on his homework instead of messing with wikipedia. Thanks, --EncephalonSeven 00:54, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

I'll do, but if vandalism continues, another temporary block may be used. Check [10] for the list of contributions -- ( drini's vandalproof page ☎ ) 14:19, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] My RfA

Thank you for your support! If you should ever have any concerns about my actions as an administrator, please be sure to tell me! Kirill Lokshin 13:36, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] RfC against you

Check this out. Idorunet has filed an RFC against you. --May the Force be with you! Shreshth91($ |-| r 3 $ |-| t |-|) 11:10, 30 October 2005 (UTC)

Idorunet's rant is so funny that if it weren't so poorly written that someone not involved would not know what he/she/it is talking about, I'd put it on BJAODN. --Nlu 15:42, 30 October 2005 (UTC)
I'll second that. I'm not involved, and indeed, I have no idea what it's about. - CHAIRBOY (☎) 15:45, 30 October 2005 (UTC)
What about this rant from him/her? "MY USERPAGE ISVANDALISED BY ADMIN WHO REVERT + ADD BLOCK TEMPLATE AND THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE AND IS COMPLETE INAPRORATE PLEASE INTERFENRERERE AND STOP." Scores a 9.7 on my incoherent rant scale. --GraemeL (talk) 16:02, 30 October 2005 (UTC)
Well, he created several dozens of redirects from article space to his userspace like Idorsoup Idorblog Idorfoo Idorthis etc. After being asked to stop he continued and got his block. Next day we found out that Cool Cat shared the same IP and thus he was hit by the block. After unblocking, idorunet persisted vandalizing pages and creating redirects so other admins blocked him and thus also hitting the cat. And that's how it has been going, so I decided to put a notice on his user page so other admins would not block him for long periods of time. And protected his userpage so he couldn't delete the notice. So maybe I'm an überrogue admin that abused my powers. -- ( drini's vandalproof page ☎ ) 20:01, 30 October 2005 (UTC)
I've taken the liberty to write a summary in response. Please feel free to supercede it. --Nlu 01:39, 31 October 2005 (UTC)


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