User talk:Drappel

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[edit] Welcome!

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Hello, Drappel, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or ask your question and then place {{helpme}} after the question on your talk page. Again, welcome!  --Elonka 02:37, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Hello, Drappel. Thank you for reverting vandalism to Wikipedia. After you revert, I would recommend also warning the users whose edits you revert on their talk pages with an appropriate template or custom message. This will serve to direct new users towards the sandbox, educate them about Wikipedia, and a stern warning to a vandal may prevent him or her from vandalizing again. Thanks! Raven4x4x 06:40, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
This is some great job you are doing. As has already been said, please warn the vandals, and please sign your comment with ~~~~ when you put a comment on some Talk page. Cheers, and hope you have a good stay here. --soumসৌমোyasch 08:16, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bots and bugs in “foreign” language characters

On the talk page for Martin23 you commented at 16:56, 11 March 2007 (UTC) on the item User_talk:Martinp23#foreign_language_character_bug asking for an example.

Perhaps you did not see my post just below it User_talk:Martinp23#Suspected_conflict_of_bot_edits_with_non_Latin_Alphabet at 20:34, 10 March 2007 (UTC) in it I gave the example of Emerald Buddha you probably missed it because I attempted a Neutral Point of View by refering to the “non Latin Alphabet rather than calling it foreign. --Drappel 03:39, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

I asked for an example after it was fixed; the one you pointed to was at 19:35, while the first bot edit after it was fixed is at 23:03. --cesarb 11:54, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Timeline of Military Operations in the 2006 Lebanon War

Hi there - you and I both independently had the same opinion about the edits to this page by User talk:213.219.16.20 so thought I'd let you know that s/he has calmed down a bit now and seems to be more prepared to engage in constructive editing in the future (see the IP talk page for our discussion). Just a thought: your last edit summary on that page might be thought to be a little insensitive by those who are more emotionally involved in the topic than I am. I don't want you to be called nasty names as well! Best wishes, Bencherlite 17:12, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Replied with note and a copy of mine to 213.219.16.20 which was:

I have removed the repetitive entry from every single day; however I see that I am not the first, nor I suspect the last to do this. My objection is not the fact that the daily (I will accept as a matter of good faith that it was in fact daily) use of rocketry is being noted but the way of its inclusion. Some days, for instance July 28, already have a record of the rocketry included in the narrative; by giving details and even citation for that days rocketry the entry for the day has considerably more believability.

Let us hope that there is a resolution to the matter --Drappel 17:45, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Nicely put. Bencherlite 17:50, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Revert tag edit war.

I have placed the following on those talk pages for the schools mentioned which have entries.

There appears to be an anonymous user with a dynamically assigned, variable, IP address
82.26.98.237 contributions
82.26.99.28 contributions
83.26.102.63 contributions
82.26.102.218 contributions
82.26.106.254 contributions
82.26.107.31 contributions
82.26.107.104 contributions
82.62.108.103 contributions
82.26.110.9 contributions
82.26.111.152 contributions
to name a few.
Who has for some reason, either simple mischief, dislike of the city of Portsmouth England or its educational establishments or some other reason not apparent, decided to repeatedly call by one method or another for the deletion of a set of articles.

South Downs College (Portsmouth)
Mayfield School (Portsmouth)
City of Portsmouth Boys' School
The Portsmouth Grammar School
Portsmouth High School (Southsea) a subdivision of Portsmouth
St John's College (Portsmouth)
City of Portsmouth Girls' School
Priory School (Portsmouth)

Similarly this user has recently made changes to the main Portsmouth page by unlinking
Highbury College, Portsmouth College, South Downs College and Havant College Admiral Lord Nelson School, City of Portsmouth Girls' School, King Richard School, Mayfield School, Milton Cross School, Priory School, Springfield School, St Edmund's RC School, St Luke's C of E VA Secondary School and City of Portsmouth Boys' School.

In addition as, user Simon S Sumpton (since blocked) this user seems to have created diverts for
Admiral Lord Nelson School (Portsmouth)
King Richard Secondary School (Portsmouth)
Milton Cross School (Portsmouth)
Springfield School (Portsmouth)
St Edmund's RC School (Portsmouth)
St Luke's School (Portsmouth).

It might be suggested that the user is attempting by a series of guerrilla actions to use Wikipedia policies and procedures in an attempt to get administrators to remove all traces of many if not all educational establishments in the Portsmouth area.

While the standard of some of these articles is poor, their removal will not encourage those who have an interest in them to make the necessary improvements to bring them up to an acceptable level.

Deletion would also defeat the objective of the Wiki Schools Project, as the majority of articles it deals with are of this type, and more notable education establishments articles are with other projects, such as Wiki Universities Project.

Information.
ISP NTL a British ISP has a block of IP addresses from 82.0.0.0 to 82.31.255.255 with addresses 82.26.96.0 to 82.26.111.255 assigned to the NTL branch at Winchester in the county of Hampshire (the same county as Portsmouth).

In addition, I have to the best of my knowledge reverted the unnecessary requests for review on the grounds of notability. -- Drappel 16:32, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Great work on noting all that down. I've been trying to follow the users actions over the past weeks. Because of the dynamic IP though the user cant really be blocked. I might suggest that you ask the pages - Portsmouth and the schools etc be semi protected to prevent damage until the user loses interest. Wikipedia:Requests_for_page_protection - I would be happy to conominate the articles for semi protection with you. The other alternative is to simply watch the pages and attempt manual revert - though I think it is now an official edit war so protection would be best. Let me know your thoughts.LordHarris 17:08, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Replied with
Thanks for your kind words regarding the Revert tag edit war (for Portsmouth Schools). I thought I would give it 24 hours or so to see if the Pompey-phobic gives up rather than make an early call for page protection. My hope being that the unhelpful edits will stop when the user realises that hiding on the internet is not as simple as (s)he may think and that it is possible and relatively easy to track and revert edits. -- Drappel 17:59, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
Instead of tags, an attempt has now been made to remove all articles via merging (along with a lot of others) - see Portsmouth and the talk page.LordHarris 08:15, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
Links to schools in the Portsmouth article. Whilst I appreciate that you are in disagreement over the merge tags, the links were correctly removed as they are all red links or redirects to the Portsmouth article. If you are going to create articles adding the linking is fine. However, if you are not the links should be removed until someone creates an article. Circular linking should be avoided. Nuttah68 11:42, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Replied with My bulk reinstatement of the linking was because the circular references were created by the 82.26.xxx.xxx bandit under his user name Simon S Sumpton (since blocked), articles for various schools were linked back to the main article in, I must assume an effort to hide them or prevent their creation as part of a campaigning against the city of Portsmouth. Point of information, I am a resident of Southampton and have no great love of Portsmouth but do not see this as reason to sit back while Portsmouth (through its Wikipedia page) is being belittled. -- Drappel 12:01, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Regardless of who created them, and the user you accuse has also placed merge tags on all Southampton articles, the circular references fail this guideline and should be removed. Nuttah68 12:07, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
Thank you for your help. I have been concerned about this edit warring by this mysterious user as well. Especially since most of the articles targeted have been marked as "mid" or "high" importance by the Wiki Schools Project, hence the need to protect them. Camaron1 | Chris 17:08, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Friendly Fire and the 82.26.xxx.xxx Bandit

My erroneous edit to Mayville High School was in an attempt to revert the vandalism by 82.26.107.104 (contributions) that took place 06:15, 8 April 2007 to the page. It seems that the guerrilla tactics by the 82.26.xxx.xxx Bandit are causing a number of incidents of friendly fire. -- Drappel 18:33, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Soton merges

Hi Drappel, I'm probably too late, but you don't need to add your opposition on every talk page, just Talk:Southampton :). I plan to remove all the merge tags today anyway, since there's nothing but opposition to it. Thanks, Joe D (t) 22:08, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Yes you are too late, I think I had just finished the Southampton area/schools and Portsmouth area/schools that Notability Crusader (contributions) and 82.26.107.104 (contributions), who are either one and the same or share a common purpose, had been engaged in a guerrilla action against. I was about to start removing the tags and pointing to the talk page for my rational. As a matter of interest did you look here and also here? -- Drappel 22:29, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
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