Talk:Dr Challoner's Grammar School
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The article lists the following book under "Further reading":
- F. R. Treadgold, B.A (1974). "Challoner's" 1624 - 1974. ISBN 0852360517.
I can find no trace of any book with this ISBN anywhere (with the obvious exception of a multitude of mirrors of Wikipedia. Actually I can so far find no trace of the alleged author. We need some confirmation of the book's details, or we will have to pull it. HTH HAND —Phil | Talk 07:04, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
- I have found a site which mentions a similarly titled book by the same author, described as:
- Treadgold, F.R (1974). "Challoner's 1624-1974, The story of Dr. Challoner's Grammar School Amersham". The Leagrave Press Ltd, Luton.
- No ISBN listed, however. As a current member of staff at the school I will make enquiries to elicit further details of such a book. — Jay Schlackman 18:35, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
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- I have finally found the book listed above in COPAC. This shows that a copy is held by Kings College Library so it seems the book discussed here does indeed exist. Interestingly, the book referenced here was replaced in December 2005 with a reference to an even more elusive book: F. R. Treadgold, B.A. "Dr Challoner and his school". (Amersham), 1973. . I have enquired about such books with some long time staff members who informed me that a book on the subject was published locally that never received an ISBN number. Clearly, if true, this is not the book that originally sparked discussion here but may be the book currently referenced in the article. I have been given a couple of names of staff who may possess a copy which I will endeavour to get a look at to find out if there are indeed 2 books, or if the current reference is incorrect. For now, I am adding the original reference back with the publisher information found on my earlier search as in my view its existence has now been verified independently of Wikipedia. — Jay Schlackman 21:25, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] School closed for smog + water problems..
Is this kind of trivial information really necessary? Since it would be overly detailed to include (arguably more important) details regarding teacher arrivals/departures, sporting results, etc there is surely no case to know that the school closed a few years ago for some reason? I've removed it for now...feel free to re-add if you think there's a good reason to include it I guess.
[edit] Dr Challoners closure story premature
I can categorically state that Challoners is alive and well; still supplying first class education in the Amersham area. Stories of it's closure due to smog (!!??!!) and water must be fictional. How do I know? I am an Amersham resident and a Challoners Old Boy
You're also an idiot; they didn't mean it had shut down, merely that it closed for the day. The Bucks Free Press confirms this.
[edit] Specialty vs. Speciality vs. Specialism
I didn't actually spot this until the recent edit by User:ScribbleMonkey to change 'specialty' to 'speciality'. Personally I would have gone with the former, but dictionaries I have consulted differ on whether these are actual different words or simply US/UK variations on the same word. To resolve this, I visited the the Specialist Schools and Academies Trust website to see what they call them, and they always use the term 'specialism' to refer to the area(s) in which a specialist school as been accredited. I verified this with staff at the school who are involved with the Specialist Science College and they agree the correct term should be 'specialism'. Jay Schlackman 09:06, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] House system
Can we add something about the old house system then? I'm aware there was a precedent in it, but I don't know anything more about itUser:cometh now as
[edit] School Motto
Is "Excellence With Integrity" supposed to be a translation of "Ad Astra Per Aspera", or is it an additional motto? "Ad Astra Per Aspera " translates as something more like "To the stars through difficulties". Unless someone objects, I'll change it in a couple of weeks. GoldenTorc 16:55, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
- Excellence With Integrity is a second motto, introduced a few years ago, to augment the school's traditional 'Ad Astra'. Bastin 17:41, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
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- Ok -thanks for letting me know - should the entry in the information box be called 'Mottos', instead of Motto then, to clarify? GoldenTorc 19:46, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
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- Unfortunately, it can't be, as it's a generic infobox. The only way to change that would be to have the mottos below the location, which really isn't ideal. I see three options: leave as it is, hoping that people don't assume that Excellence with Integrity is a translation; keep both, but add the translation of the Latin in parentheses; or remove 'Excellence with Integrity' (which is really a slogan, rather than a motto; 'Ad Astra' remains on the school's crest, etc). Bastin 14:06, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
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It makes sense to add the latin in parentheses, it's not really a slogan it's on every bit of school stationery perhaps someone should email the school and ask them their position on it. If not i say stick a little white fence around the english translation.
"A mission statement defines the core purpose of the organization" or "A motto is a phrase or collection of words intended to describe the motivation or intention". Intention and purpose aren't very far removed and that was true in 2001, I'll have a chat to Fenton when we go back.
[edit] Alumni
Matt Allwright deleted. He is not a former pupil of the school. He attended Reading Blue Coat School in Sonning on Thames.Milton25 08:05, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
