Talk:Doug Eddings

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A better image would probably be that of Eddings making the out motion, can anyone find that? zellin 02:53, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Changes

I changed "He came to public attention with a controversial call that allowed the Chicago White Sox to win a 2005 American League Championship Series game over the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim." to "He came to public attention with a controversial call during Game 2 of the 2005 American League Championship Series between the Chicago White Sox and the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim."

At the point in which the call was made, the game was tied. The Angels could have ended the inning by getting Pablo Ozuna out when he stole second base, or could have struck out Joe Crede at the plate. Even then there was no guarantee that the Angels would have scored in the 10th and won the game. — Linnwood 06:46, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

Yeah, true. Good catch.--Mike Selinker 15:04, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] "Doug Eddinges is a Douche"

I've removed this link again.

1. It is not NPOV
2. It is is a link to some guy's random weblog that is devoted to an event that has passed

— Linnwood 05:46, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

This is the best collection of questionable calls by Mr. Eddings. If you can point to a more definitive site where all opinions about the infamous 2005 ALCS call as well as his previous calls then I'll stop linking it in.

This site is the number five result when searched on in Google and the number one result in MSN. It certainly has a point of view but so does Firedoug.com. Please link in any site that praise Mr. Eddings, but why shy away from fair, yet strident criticism.

I would also add that someone who is a Chicago partisan should be making this call. It would be like someone allowing a team to have an extra shot at a third out in the bottom of the ninth.

How about someone who is not a newly minted wikipedian make this call? The site is NPOV in its title and not appropriate for the site. Your own bitterness about issue is blinding you. — Linnwood 06:52, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

FYI: Wikipedia etiquette dictated that you sign your posts.

Wikipedia was designed from the ground up to prevent gatekeepers and those that know better from holding back information. So just because you've been contributing longer and know the secret handshakes doesn't mean you're anymore informed or less biased than myself.

And nowhere in the reading of the NPOV materials here does it state that an external link has to also follow the NPOV guidelines. The site in question certainly is biased. But when literally dozens of news articles showing questionable calls over the last 5 years of Mr. Eddings career there aren't many positive conclusions to be drawn.

The only reason there is a Doug Eddings page here is because of a spectacularly controversial call.

http://DougEddingsIsADouche.blogspot.com shows that this is not an isolated incident. It has also been linked by a major sports site and several discussions of the call. It is a snapshot of reaction to Mr. Eddings, that call in particular and a larger question of his general abilities.

NPOV

--Digitalfilmmaker 08:59, 19 October 2005 (UTC)Digitalfilmmaker

There's been enough battling over the anti-Eddings blog, in my opinion. When I created the Eddings page, I did so specifically because of his controversial (and wrong [and I'm a White Sox fan]) call. So a site that attempts to analyze Eddings' calls, no matter how hamfistedly or NPOV-edly, seems at least moderately relevant to me. I suggest leaving it on the page, and ending the argument over one external link. At the very least, Linnwood, please stop reverting it and leave it up there for a while to see if anyone else has a problem with it. Thanks. -- Mike Selinker 14:13, 21 October 2005 (UTC)