Talk:Double lift

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I would recommend this thread for deletion, along with all other spoiler-related threads. It is wrong to reveal any magic effects; it kills the art form and should be deleted immediately.

Counterpoint: "security through obscurity" has been shown time and time again to be a bad idea. People who want to know how it's done will always find out, and those who don't are not liable to just stumble across something they don't want to know. The art of magic does not consist of hoarding "secrets" - instead the magician should concentrate on creating the effect that he wants in the audience, regardless of whether or not they know how it was done.

However, keeping the spectator from knowing the mechanics of a trick is an essential part of magic. A double lift by itself is not a trick per se, but is so common in modern card magic that exposing it is harmful to those who perform regularly. Just as the articles on Halo, and 'Pong' don't give the sourcecode, this article should merely say that this is a card slight invented by Richard Neve.--Glatner 02:04, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

- I agree with the poster above. I also would like to say that everyone who has posted the exposure clearly has no idea about the magic theories used. A double lift is NOT picking up three or four cards simultainously as explained in this article.

- I also agree too. Exposing any method relating to magic technique for free is absolutely wrong and unethical. This is the reason why magic is dying so quickly. It's not even an art anymore, it's a little hobby up to anybody's hands to grab.