Talk:Double-elimination tournament

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I'm confused, the article states that the winner of the upper bracket only has to lose once to lose the tournament. This is never the case as the winner of the consolation bracket will always have to defeat the upper bracket winner twice.

[edit] rewrote article

I re-wrote much of the article in order to offer a clearer explanation of why things happen the way they do, rather than a confusing explanation about how the teams that have won once and lost once face the teams that have lost after winning the first round, the losers having lost twice and the winners who have won once and lost once then won again facing the teams that won twice and lost once, on and on and on. This, coupled with the lack of a diagram, makes it rather difficult to swallow if you don't already know how a double-elimination tournament is conducted.

Instead, I noted that each round in the Losers Bracket is conducted in two stages, the second one allowing the losers from the Winners Bracket to be "filtered down" into the Losers Bracket. This, I believe, establishes the fundamental principle behind the arrangement of the Losers Bracket (in other words, the why), rather than going off on an accurate but overwhelmingly confusing treatise on just the end result (in other words, the what).

I picked up the diagram from the Bracket (tournament) article (props to whoever made that), which while still not crystal clear, still offers a way for people to see the results and perhaps, with the aid of the written text of the article, suddenly reach that epiphany of "oh, I get it now!". -- Vystrix Nexoth 22:37, Jun 15, 2005 (UTC)

I found the diagram most useful, in particular the fact that the winner of the top bracket loses and gets reintroduced as a loser-on-second-chance and then goes on to win. That wasn't apparent just from reading the text. (Nor, I must admit initially understood from first glance at the diagram; it was only when working out how many matches get played per person that I needed something to explain the errors in my own disgrams, lol.) ;o) Ferdinangus 15:19, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Comparisons

Someone care to write something comparing it with the Swiss system and Round-Robin system?70.111.251.203 13:09, 6 February 2006 (UTC)