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[edit] Image:FlyBE Bae146 G-JEAW Glasgow.jpg

I just want to say, as an amateur photographer myself, that this is a lovely shot. Nicely done. It's even been nicely framed by the surrounding clouds. I really like this picture. Ben W Bell talk 07:29, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

Hello Ben, Well for some reason the image has been deleted along with some others that I have uploaded in the past few months. It is frustrating to go to such work to resize the images and place thumbnails in the article only to have them wiped out.

[edit] Uploaded photos

Hi, first off thanks for uploading some top notch photos! I've edited one of them to remove the copyright tag at the bottom since it distracts from the photo. It's also ambiguous since the photo was tagged as public domain. Generally Wikipedia guidelines aren't keen on having such copyright tags and if the licence allows modification you'll find people will come along are remove the tag; of course I can't find the associated guideline or policy just now!

Also the thumbnail text shouldn't go into too much detail - the detail belongs in the image description page. Likewise "click to enlarge" is redundant.

Thanks/wangi 14:18, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Regarding the size of thumbnails - one of the things that can be changed in a user's preferences (the "my preferences" link at the top) is the size thumbnails are displayed for them. Unless there is a very good reason not to, you should avoid using fixed pixel values and instead leave it to the user prefs - after all they know the size of their screen and their preferences better than you do:
Wikipedia:Image use policy#Rules of thumb:
In general, there is no need to specify thumbnail size. Users can select their ideal size in preferences
Thanks/wangi 14:53, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
Hello Wangi - you are quite correct "In general". The majority of visitors to Wikipedia are browsing for information. Most would not know where the image preferences are. I keep all my images horizontally in line with the encumbant "info box" and always underneath existing images. It is important to see Wikipedia from a visual perspective as well as outright text. My image placements, kilobytes, quality and format are "in general" with most other 1.2 million Wikipedia pages. Thanks for popping in :) Dotonegroup 15:08, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
Thing is that's ignoring the folk who do know where their preferences are, and use them for good reason. When I browse WP with my PDA you can be sure I don't want big "thumbnails" - I want the size I've picked because it's smaller and quicker to download. Back home on the 24" monitor I want 300px thumbnails... Images like the one we're talking about fit into the general case, there's nothing in it essential to understanding the article and at the default thumbnail size the article still looks fine. The exceptions are diagrams and the like that an article uses to describe an idea. Thanks/wangi 15:18, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Martin, you're going to think i'm the policy nazi! Just on the airscotland article the (existing) link to the photos on the airliners.net site should not really be listed and likewise for your own site... And folk really don't like it when people add links to their own sites! I know you're waiting for it... WP:EL is the guideline :) /wangi 15:35, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

I replied on my talk page: User talk:Wangi#Editing Air Scotland image size. L/wangi 18:49, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Copyright tag

I read with interest your coversation above with User:Wangi and yet I noticed that you continued to upload images with the tag he (rightly) objected to. Would you be willing to re-edit those images to remove the copyright statement, which is rather confusing, and the link to your own site, which breaches policy? Obviously you may take as read my intense gratitude for uploading so many high quality images to our encyclopedia. Please have a think about it. Thanks. --Guinnog 16:20, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

I was thinking of the text at the bottom of, for example, Image:Boeing 707 engine view.jpg, where it says (c) ScotlandOne.com. This appears to contradict the copyright information on the description below, which is the template
GFDL

Permission is granted to copy, distribute and/or modify this document under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License, Version 1.2 or any later version published by the Free Software Foundation; with no Invariant Sections, no Front-Cover Texts, and no Back-Cover Texts.

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I'd be much happier if you edited your images to make it plain you are the creator of the image and that you donate the copyright to Wikipedia under the terms of the GFDL. Aesthetically, it would make the images look much nicer too. --Guinnog 17:55, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Edit summaries

Thanks for taking my criticisms on board so reasonably. At risk of appearing to hassle you, can I remind you to leave a short but informative edit summary when you edit? It helps other users see what you intend by an edit.

Incidentally I hope you don't mind me editing your image to get rid of the magenta cast. I'm guessing that this was an old slide; many of mine have gone the same way. --Guinnog 20:06, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

Thank you Guinnog. The edit is an improvement, and yes indeed a 35mm slide from 1975.

I'll add the edit summary in future. I have gone through some uploads and removed the underwire with ScotlandOne.com on it. I may have missed some out there, but I will make sure there's no (C) tag that contradicts the Wiki tagging.

Cheers.

You're a star. For adding such good material, but more importantly for being able to accept criticism and act on it. I really appreciate it. --Guinnog 20:16, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
Well thank you, but I am simply trying to uphold the ethics of Wikipedia. It is impossible to come through the door and know everything about the thousands of Wikipedia guidelines. Someone out there has needed advice, and down the road they too can give advice. Impartiality is a rare commodity in any language, but it is a far more beneficial to the status quo. I am keen to contribute properly, it simply wastes too much time and resources for everyone when heid banging occurs.
I took the time to read your bio, the photo is a great way of adding the human element to the text. I have been taking photos since 1972 and this is my strong point. This is what I can contribute to Wikipedia, for it is what I know. What I don't know is the refinements of uploading and tagging.... but with assistance from folks like you and Wangi... I will learn.

Martin.


[edit] Barnstar

I've awarded you the Photographer's Barnstar. You deserve it. Move it around if you would like it somewhere else on your userspace. --Guinnog 20:27, 5 August 2006 (UTC)


Hollee fish suppers!! I have never had one of these things... thank you very much.

[edit] Concorde Photos

No, I removed a picture someone added of a British Airways A320. I deemed it unneccessary because there are already several exterior shots of BA aircraft on the page and another one would not have improved the page, but simply added to its file size. As to your photo, which I did not remove, I'm not sure what benefit would come from having it on there. Perhaps a link in the external links section, but unless there's a specific part of the article talking about the seats on the Concorde, I don't think a picture is really needed of the interior. Oh, and interior pictures, especially of the concorde are not that rare. A search on Airliners.net will prove that. Thanks. NcSchu 14:33, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

You can see exactly what people change when they make edits by selecting two different versions and clicking "compare selected versions". By the way, I've condensed your two comments into one just to make it easier to read. Thanks. NcSchu 14:45, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Dunlop parish church

To demonstrate that you hold the copyright to this article, could you please send an email from an address associated with the originating website, stating that you have released the article under the GNU Free Documentation License, to permissions(at)wikimedia(dot)org? Thanks, --RobthTalk 06:09, 9 November 2006 (UTC)