Talk:Dorothy Clutterbuck
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[edit] Paragraph of speculation
The last paragraph in the article I am removing because it is uncited and reads like original research:
- Interest in alternative traditions was common at this time, since the growth of Theosophy in the late nineteenth century. Nationalist and romantic interest in English rural traditions was also common, as is evidenced by foundation of societies for the collection folk-songs and other aspects of threatened folk-culture. The conservative emphasis on Deep England lay behind many of these movements, which became associated with Margaret Murray's ideas about pre-Christian survivals in English rural culture. It is possible that Clutterbuck combined an interest in pagan and occult ideas with an aspiration to preserve local folk beliefs, believed to have survived from ancient pagan faiths. From this Gardner could have developed the myth of an unbroken witchcraft tradition dating back to the pre-Christian old religion. However, the extent to which Clutterbuck was involved in witchcraft – if at all – still remains unclear.[citation needed]
These are really interesting ideas, so if anyone can find authors who state this about Dorothy Clutterbuck, please add what you can back in, with citations.Fuzzypeg☻ 01:28, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
- thanks for the Diaries piece - it certainly seems more balanced than it was before, without removing much of what you originally had. Some of that last paragraph seems familiar, but not the whole thing in this context. I'll have a look. More reading. <sigh> Thanks again. Ffetcher 13:36, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
- I found references to the fashion for witchcraft-related folklore in Hutton (Triumph) and in general, the whole of his 'Stations' is pertinent to the first half of the paragraph. The EFLS was founded in 1898 (I think) and to find specific references would need a search of the index of its journal, Folklore (nope, it's in London, too far away. However, as I got more specific I realised that it has nothing whatever to do with Dorothy. So I added a brief paragraph into Gardner instead. Adding more will require a stub for the EFLS. Ffetcher 10:18, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
Okay, I've had a go at a proper 'lead' for this article, again spurred by the last sentence of that paragraph. It's not perfect but it may concentrate the mind as to what else we need. I have no idea how, with the extant information, we can ever get better than a 'B', but... it's that or heading to the pub. Ffetcher 17:27, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
