Talk:Don Pullen
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[edit] Copyright
Most of the article text is copied from http://www.donpullen.de/biogra_e.htm, so there is a possible copyright problem. However, it may be that the author, Mike Bond, approved, because the statement at the end, This brief biography is compiled from notes for a future more detailed study, is one I might attribute to an author. Also, one revision was signed MCB, which I can interpret as Mike Bond's initials. So I am not flagging it for a potential copyright violation but mentioning it here.
Because of the possible copyright problem I have limited my edits for the most part to adding headings and subheadings, links, and citation format. Previous revisions mistakenly used boldface instead of correct link syntax and I have corrected all of those.
One the copyright issue is cleared up, all references to "Don" need to be changed to "Pullen", as with other first name references such as "George", "Dannie", etc. There are many NPOV problems, notably the paragraph beginning But it is better not to concentrate too much on his technique
RosinDebow 17:19, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
- I contacted the author, Mike Bond, through the webmaster of http://www.donpullen.de, and learned that Mike originally wrote the article for Wikipedia and posted it, and then put it up on http://www.donpullen.de. So Wikipedia is not in copyright violation, though it would be good to put this on the record officially.
RosinDebow 01:41, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
From Mike Bond: I just want to confirm that there is no copyright violation in the article I put on Wikipedia. I consider that there is no copyright existing in this or the similar text on www.donpullen.de, which was put up by the webmaster with my agreement.
[edit] References
Here are the list of references that Mike sent, until I (or someone else) have a chance to incorporate them into the article. RosinDebow 14:47, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
References for Don Pullen Biography Early Life R1, R2, R3, R4 Early Career R1, R2, R3, R4, R5 With Mingus R1, R2, R3, R4, R6 As Leader R7, R8, R9 George Adams/Don Pullen Quartet R6, R10, R11, R4 Don Pullen Trio & African Brazilian Combination R4, R13, R14, R15 Linking with Cecil Taylor R1, R4, R5, R16, R17, R19 Technique R11, R4 (detailed) R1 Interview with Vernon Frazer, Coda October, 1976 (Canada) R2 Free Blues, Jazz Hot 331, October 1976 (France) R3 Piano Inside And Out, Down Beat, June 1985 (USA) R4 Don Pullen, Down Beat, November 1989 (USA) R5 Don Pullen, Jazz Magazine, September 1980(France) R6 Don Pullen, Keyboard, September 1982 (Canada) R7 Don Pullen, Down Beat, July 1977 (USA) R8 Jane Bunnett Blindfold Test, Jazz Times 2002 R9 Don Pullen, Jazz Journal, June 1980 (UK) R10 Don Pullen/George Adams Quartet BIO, Blue Note (USA) R11 Don Pullen, Musician, October 1986 (USA) R12 Cameron Brown Interview (Internet) R13 Don Pullen Mosaic Set - Postscript (USA) R14 Washington Post, September 25, 1990 R15 Rhythm Music, January 1990 (USA) R16 Don Pullen Blindfold Test, Down Beat, November 1989 (USA) R17 Don Pullen Obituary, Jazz Journal, July 1995 (UK) R18 Don Pullen, New Grove Dictionary Of Jazz, 2002 (USA) R19 Modern Jazz 1945-70, (UK) R20 Pullen, Melody Maker, March 25, 1978 (UK)
This is definitely not in the NPOV spirit:
"By chance, unfortunately for his future commercial success if not for his musical development, his first contact on arriving on the New York scene was with the free players of the 1960s, with whom he recorded. It was some years later before his abilities in more straight-ahead jazz playing, as well as free, were revealed to a larger audience."
With a musician like Don Pullen who oscillates so frequently between what is considered "free jazz" and "traditional jazz," it's likely that that any given listener will be biased toward one or the other. We should try our best to let people decide which "side" of Don they prefer on their own.
--Roivas 01:04, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
This article would benefit greatly from the use of references. This whole article is speculation. Don Pullen deserves a lot better. I don't know very much about the subject and can't enhance the content of this entry. Fixing a few grammatical problems won't make it much better.
--Roivas 01:29, 11 November 2006 (UTC)