Talk:Dolly Parton

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Contents 1 Replacement of image 2 Dolly's mother's name 3 Cousin? 4 Birthday 5 Dispute? 6 Composer? 7 Fan Sites 8 Deleted huge POV paragraph 9 Unsourced quotes

[edit] Replacement of image

I removed the image thumb|250px|Dolly Parton in 1987. It's a nice image but it was inserted in place of a public domain image. PD images should always be the aim where possible, and for a contemporary celebrity they are so hard to get, (for some people near impossible). If we are lucky enough to get one, it should be the one that we keep above all else. Delete anything else, but not a PD image. I've seen better and more flattering photographs of Dolly Parton, but that is not the point. It's a photograph which we are free to use, and so we should.

The image of Parton in Christmas attire from IMDB - the copyright issue there is considerably more difficult. Follow the link from IMDB and it takes you to MPTV, the actual source of the image, and which has a very stringent copyright policy - ie they say in very clear language that their images are not to be used for any purpose other than what they have given permission for. They do not give any more permission than to download low quality copies for personal use only, and expressly forbid their images to be published. They also make it clear that while they represent the use and licensing of the image, they don't claim to necessarily own the copyright. They don't offer any provision for "fair use". How muddy is that? The image should be deleted. Rossrs 13:27, 7 September 2005 (UTC)

When I saw the SNL jpg (here), I simply had to add some relevant content referring to Dolly's own humor about her "body-type," but there's no info about the rationale of "fair-use" associated with the image, as far as I can tell. The tag used says "Note: Please do not use this tag." I couldn't find the origin of this picture. I left a note on the originator's talk page to see if they would like to fix it, but anyone is naturally welcome to fix the tag and add a rationale. (I feel it may be a little beyond my own noobishness, though I'm learning to be bold). Durty Willy 03:35, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

I'm really pretty sure that it was from the NBC press website, which used to be semi-public. -- user:zanimum

[edit] Dolly's mother's name

I changed the name Alvey Lee Owens to Avie Lee Owens because I know this to be true.

[edit] Cousin?

Anybody have a source for the claim that some pornstar is Parton's cousin? This seems pretty suspicious to me; an effort to capitalize indirectly on a sex symbol who never did X-rated stuff. --Saforrest 23:16, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Birthday

Dolly Parton was definetly not 1916. I looked it up on other sources, she was born in 1946. Don't know the day, it could be the same. I blame it on a typo on the writer's part. Not a biggie, I changed it.

EDIT: chaged before I could even do it. How about that. :-P

[edit] Dispute?

This article contains two particularly glaring passages without reference, to wit:

1. "Her extramarital relationships have been the subject of tabloid speculation for decades..."
2. "(Parton is famous for her ample bust, now augmented by breast implants.)"

I'd like to see these rewritten, cited or removed; otherwise, I'll be adding a {{disputed}} tag. Thanks. :) RadioKirk talk to me 18:57, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

I think I most recently edited the article....I was trying to cut judiciously (this article is loooong!) but I agree these don't have any definitive support. I'm going to remove - and anyone re-adding can cite. NickBurns 23:40, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

Agreed, thanks! :) RadioKirk talk to me 03:34, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Dolly was born on January 19, 1946.

[edit] Composer?

It strikes me as redundant to decribe Parton as a songwriter and a composer in the introduction -- doubtless one of her main claims to fame is as a songwriter so that should be in there, but why have a separate listing for composer as well? Has she written any music that isn't in song form? Gusworld 08:57, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

Composer creates the music itself while a songwriter writes the lyrics. TJ Spyke 01:27, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

Actually, a lyricist writes the lyrics. A songwriter writes songs, which include both lyrics and music, and generally the term indicates both. Hyacinth 08:42, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Fan Sites

Wikipedia guidelines ask that only one representative fan site be linked to an entry. At one point perhaps 10 or more fan sites were linked in this article before being cleaned up in accordance with those guidelines. Of the dozens of fan-operated websites dedicated to Dolly Parton, there is one that is by far the largest and the only one updated on a regular basis (ie. more than once every few months), DollyMania.net. It is also the only one Ms. Parton has publicly endorsed and sanctioned, choosing to often utilize it as the substitute to having an official website of her own. Therefore, it is the most appropriate link for fan sites in this article. Some editors, however, continue to add alternate fan sites in addition to DollyMania in violation of the Wikipedia guidelines. Those should be removed as they are added.

[edit] Deleted huge POV paragraph

A paragraph related around the claim Parton was one of the "few country artists to have a diverse fan base from all walks of life". This is blatant POV. For this to be fact, rather than an opinion, the many millions and millions of country music fans all around the world would have to be from the same walk of life. They are not all Texas Cowboys who like drinking in honky tonks by any stretch of the imagination! 74.65.39.59 02:16, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

LOL someone put owner of big tits! lol im gonna fix that in my registered account- Paulm27

[edit] Unsourced quotes

I deleted a bunch of quotes from the Image section per WP:BLP as they were uncited. I don't think they were bad faith, but quotes like "I wanted to look like trash!" need to be sourced or could be construed as libel. If you can cite them, please revert me! GertrudeTheTramp 06:45, 6 January 2007 (UTC)