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Archives January – August 2006 September 2006 October-December 2006 January 2007

Contents 1 Question 2 Happy new year 3 Featured portal candidate 4 Castles Project scope 5 Snagging 6 New Old House 7 Article on William Burges 8 WP:ARCH 9 stuff 10 Approved for AWB! 11 Timeline of architectural styles (western) 12 Urban Planning 13 AWB 14 St Crispin's School 15 Juan de Herrera 16 Portal rotation 17 Timeline 18 Name Change 18.1 Arichitecture Project 18.2 My contributions 18.3 More wikiprojects 18.4 Automated Variables 19 Article in need of cleanup - please assist if you can 20 Belated timeline response 21 Move 22 Help?

Question

Replace {{Architecture}} or {{architecture|class= …}}, etc, with {{architecture|class=NA|importance=NA}}:

	Architecture Portal This article covers subjects of relevance to Architecture. To participate, visit the Wikipedia:WikiProject Architecture for more information. The current monthly improvement drive is Castle.
NA	This article has been rated as NA-Class on the assessment scale.
NA	This article has been rated as NA-importance on the assessment scale.

from the list of Category talk:xxxx architecture and Talk:xxxx architecture articles on the first page of the Category:Unassessed-importance Architecture articles Thank you, —Dogears (talk • contribs) 04:57, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Do you only want me to do the first page? Or should I do all of the articles? —Mets501 (talk) 11:56, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Just the first results page with items under the number headings - "1" through "9". And then, only the items which contain the "xxxx architecture" text, for example, Category talk:1230s architecture, Category talk:3rd century BC architecture or Talk: 1984 architecture. etc. etc. Thanks for your help & Happy New Year! --dogears (talk) 19:07, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Oh, I see. Getting to it now. —Mets501 (talk) 21:33, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

That was fast! Thanks. I also noticed that the {{architecture}} tag can be completely removed from all Image talk: pages, in any and all of the importance categories (FA, A, GA, B, Stub, unassessed and NA) Refer to: Category:Architecture articles by importance. Thanks again. —Dogears 23:46, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure about that one. That would require deleting the page (becuase they'd be empty) and it's just not that bad if the tag is there with class=NA. —Mets501 (talk) 00:08, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Ok, go for it. Replace the tag in any Image talk: or Category talk: pages that already has the {{architecture}} tag (appearing in any of the Category:Architecture articles by importance) with a "double NA" tag. Cheers —Dogears 00:13, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Happy new year

We've been down to Dorset for the new year - no architecture, but I did see weather that rained upwards and felt like gravel! Trust you're in fine fettle - seems there's been something of a spat and Giano left after some admins colluded to bait and ban him - not cricket - turn my back for 5 mins........ take care. --Mcginnly | Natter 18:11, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Featured portal candidate

The portal's currently up as a featured portal candidate. It's been generally well received but some input would be appreciated regarding the news section. The comments have been that a news section should reflect current events, as the section is not updated massively regularly, the reviewers feel it's not really reflecting current events. I've argued that architectural news is rather scant and suggested renaming the section to something like "Architecture in 2006-2007" but I'm not sure they'll go for this. Other suggestions include a "Architecture in this month" section. What should we do? I've opened a debate thread here --Mcginnly | Natter 01:24, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Castles Project scope

Many thanks for the comment on my talk page, I've merged that discussion onto the project's talk page, where it's attracted some more comment that might interest you. Neddyseagoon - talk 15:06, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Snagging

I need a translator - what's snagging called in the US? Is 890 snags on the list unusual for a building of the size and complexity of the Scottish Parliament building? --Mcginnly | Natter 15:24, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks man. How's the assessment going? I'm shagged out, but it's all ticking over nicely. We might be out of the A's by February and I'm looking forward to the B's..... --Mcginnly | Natter 01:12, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

On another tack - did you see the thread at the WP:FPCAN page about automatic rotation of the selected articles and images - I think the idea is we cue up pages in advance of the rotation (at our leisure) and a bot does the rotation. Sounds interesting to me, what do you think? --Mcginnly | Natter 03:27, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

New Old House

Hey. I noticed you tagged New Old House for WP:CFD. I reverted it, because as an article it of course isn't applicable for Cfd. I suppose you meant to apply some cleanup tag or similar, since you had "January 2007" as parameter? Thanks, Prolog 12:51, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Article on William Burges

Dear Dogears

Thank you very much for have wikified my addtions to the Burges article. I am afraid I am a wikipedia novice and don't really know how lay out the page, select appropriate headings etc.

You may be able to answer another question. I have some photos of Burges buildings I would like to place on the page. The main ones are some of Castle Coch that I took at Christmas this year. Can you point me in the direction of instructions for adding photos? Any help would be most appreciated.

Thanks and regards.

KJP1 --—The preceding unsigned comment was added by KJP1 (talk • contribs).

Dear Dogears

Thank you very much for your encouragement and advice. I am sorry for the delay in getting back to you.

I have been a fan of Burges since I was about 14 years old and living in South Wales, but Wikipedia was a very recent discovery. Saw that the Burges article was not very full and thought I could add a little. Shall now concentrate on burnishing and improving the article and later will try and add some of the photos I have taken of Burges' work over the last 25 years.

I very much appreciate your support.

Regards.

KJP1

WP:ARCH

The portal's got featured status! nice one. The autorotation seems to be coming on nicely.--Mcginnly | Natter 09:09, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

stuff

this page needs more info

Approved for AWB!

Thank you for your recent application to use AutoWikiBrowser. I have approved your request and you should now be able to use the AWB application. Be sure to check every edit before you save it, and don't forget to check out the AWB Guide. You can get any help you need over on the AWB talk page. Feel free to contact me with any questions, alphachimp 00:03, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

Timeline of architectural styles (western)

This is just brilliant! --Mcginnly | Natter 14:03, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

Urban Planning

Hi [1], did you know there's a {{planning}} template - I've been swapping or adding them to appropriate articles.

	Planning Portal This article covers subjects of relevance to WikiProject Urban studies and planning, an attempt to build a comprehensive and detailed guide to Urban studies and planning on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, you can choose to edit this article, or visit the WikiProject: Urban studies and planning, where you can join the project and see a list of open tasks. You may also be interested in contributing to the Portal:Planning
???	This article has not yet received a rating on the assessment scale.
???	This article has not yet received an importance rating on the assessment scale.

--Mcginnly | Natter 00:45, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

"......official policy" to display photo's on the portal with no border | none | and the caption text below it in a <div>??? How about regular article pages? " erm. Kirill suggested it at the [[WP:FPC]]. no thumbnail code in either was the request. How's the AWB work then - is it loads quicker? - See were out of the A's - hooray - cue party, guitars, wine, women and song! --Mcginnly | Natter 01:06, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

I think it's just the portal - normal article pages you can do what you want. (Unless you're User:UKwhatsitgirl) --Mcginnly | Natter 01:08, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

mmmmm (strokes chin) interesting - might be time to bring in the GPMG and open a whole can of whoopass on those unassessed article's asses. :-) --Mcginnly | Natter 01:24, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

AWB

Ok I'm registered for AWB and got the software working - how do I "open the talk page - then open the article in a new window to assess quality?" it seems to be eluding me. --Mcginnly | Natter 11:42, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Cheers bigears! --Mcginnly | Natter 15:49, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

St Crispin's School

I note that you have removed the Architecture Project banner from this page. The school is a Grade II listed building. Why is it felt necessary to remove the banner? Dahliarose 22:55, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for re-instating the banner. I'm very pleased to see that you have now given the article an assessment! Dahliarose 09:53, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

Juan de Herrera

Hello, Dogears, I hve seen your assessment to Juan de Herrera. The minimum stub perhaps lead you to confussion about the relevance of this architect. I have enlarged it a bit, and clarified the importance of his work in El Escorial and in the architecture of the following century. Could you please reconsider the assesment? Your faithfully,--Garcilaso 12:55, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

Portal rotation

I forgot to ask - did the auto-rotation go ok at the weekend - or where there any glitches? --Mcginnly | Natter 13:17, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

PS - do you think it's possible to add a scrollable box for new article announcements to the bulletin - like you did on the wikiproject page, but just one line (the most current addition) --Mcginnly | Natter 14:47, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

You're a gen-u-ine dog-gorn genius my friend (best southern drawl)- the code on that link went whistling over my head like a farting hamster. Sure thing I'll format the weekly articles - adding a link and a plea to the bulletin for the selected features seems a good idea although if we don't see more interest pretty soon I'm inclined to spend an hour or two and load the thing up for six months or so. In the meantime a hand updating the transclusion lists at Wikipedia:WikiProject Architecture/FAC, Wikipedia:WikiProject Architecture/FIC, Wikipedia:WikiProject Architecture/Peer review/list - I do it every few days because there's quite a bit of turnover. 3 of us? did you notice DVD has left the project? - I didn't want to intrude on private grief, but somethings pissed him off. --Mcginnly | Natter 00:40, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

Timeline

Care to comments? Talk:Timeline of architectural styles (western) --Mcginnly | Natter 14:03, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

Name Change

Arichitecture Project

• Architecture also deals with Structural Engineering, and many structural engineering articles are in the scope of architecture (normally), and because there is no sepreate project for structural engineering, thus the rename. --Parker007 02:39, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

• We have more than 2000 articles not assessed. Isn't that bad?

Architecture articles		Importance
		Top	High	Mid	Low	None	Total
Quality
	FA	8	10	19			37
	A	7	2	4			13
	GA	3	10	21	6	1	41
	B	163	144	111	11	4	433
	Start	173	425	685	98	38	1419
	Stub	31	89	242	102	1397	1861
	Assessed	385	680	1082	217	1440	3804
	Unassessed	2	2	4	0	2390	2398
	Total	387	682	1086	217	3830	6202

--Parker007 02:44, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

• This is in comparision to:

MCB articles		Importance
		Top	High	Mid	Low	None	Total
Quality
	FA	5	3	8	1		17
	A	1		1			2
	GA	14	3	4	3		24
	B	38	47	51	12		148
	Start	65	124	154	86	1	430
	Stub	27	70	103	281	5	486
	Assessed	150	247	321	383	6	1107
	Unassessed	0	0	0	0	2865	2865
	Total	150	247	321	383	2871	3972

from: Wikipedia:WikiProject_Molecular_and_Cellular_Biology --Parker007 03:21, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

My contributions

I have contributed to this project by: Sill_Plate, Platform_framing and many more edits in other articles. --Parker007 02:36, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

More wikiprojects

If we make more and more wikiprojects it will end up here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Inactive_WikiProjects

But I am very interested in creating a wikiProject that deals with creating articles regarding the companies that supply construction products & materials. However creating an assesment box like the one above is very hard.

For example the Wikipedia:WikiProject_Urban_studies_and_planning doesnt have an assesment box.

I recently was involved in creating the wikiproject Dentistry Assesment box see here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dozenist#Bot_to_update_articles.3F

--Parker007 02:55, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Furthermore the bigger and more organized the project is, it can bring so many articles to FA status, and lots of main page attention; Have you noticed recently that in every few days there is an article on the main page which is related to India? Wikipedia:WikiProject_India. (Plus in their project they have admin participants). --Parker007 03:01, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Automated Variables

Please discuss your changes before you make them. All of these pages are now orphaned from the main Portal. There are several variables that we have been using to automate the Project, and assessment that's automated by a bot. Are you going to rename all those files? Please move the project back to the old name. Your welcome to do any related "Engineering" topics in the project, no problem, just please reset the old project name. —Dogears (talk • contribs) 04:52, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Can't we tell the bot to do that; we can put a request Wikipedia:Bot_requests if you don't have a bot already. --Parker007 05:16, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Article in need of cleanup - please assist if you can

Belated timeline response

Hi. Timeline of architectural styles 6000BC—Present etc. look great. I wonder though if we're not better off keeping them all in the same article page for now - a substle renaming to Timelines of architectural styles would do the trick and we can keep the massive global overview idea you had originally, but separate it neatly into various section headers. Timeline of architectural styles 6000BC—Present etc. run the risk of become isolated from each other. Just a thought. --Mcginnly | Natter 12:22, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

Move

I apologize for causing the move of the wikiproject from Wikiproject Architecture to Wikiproject Architecture and Structural Engineering. Peace. --Parker007 15:49, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

Help?

Hi, I was wondering if you could help me in my detailing assignments; I would be very grateful if you would be able to that; because its very confusing where to exactly section the assignment, and because the instructor doesn't bother to explain how to do it. Also its in 2D if you know what I mean. I am having a really hard time. This course is part-time, i.e. in the evenings, and it goes very fast; It started on Jan 9, 2007 to Feb 15, 2007, Tuesday, Thursday 6:30 PM to 9:30 PM.

Apparantly now I have just 1 week to do tons of assignments which I cannot understand; and I don't have any friends to ask for help.

And now I also need to prepare for the final exams which is divided in 2 parts one on tuesday and the other part on thursday. If you are willing to give it a shot I can scan the assignment which is to be done free hand, I will understand if you do not have the time, or are unwilling to help for personal reasons. --Parker007 18:42, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

• http://parker0007.googlepages.com/Assignment5.pdf
• http://parker0007.googlepages.com/Assignment8.pdf
• I tried earlier to ask for help from User:Mcginnly via email:

“

To:User:Mcginnly In detail assignment #5 Roofs; 16" O.C means 16" apart the joists are placed (its part of the code). I don't know what to draw? Please help. I am sure you can use MS Paint, to make a rough diagram (not to scale). And then I will do the assignment. Please?

”

• I did not recieve any reply from User:Mcginnly.
• I was not able to attend todays class due to extreme stress & anxiety. Because of this stress, it lead to diarrhea.
• I hope you will help me out. Thank You. --Parker007 02:24, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

• Thank you very much; I will attempt to draw it; I will try to figure out (even though it may take me hours) how to detail in 2D "Roof eave high heel truss, "chorded engineered truss," "profile aluminum siding," "aluminum eaves trough," "fascia (an article about muscle tissue)," "Fascia (architecture)," "Vented aluminum soffit," and "imporegnated cardboard insulation stop.

--Parker007 05:59, 9 February 2007 (UTC)