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[edit] Darth Vader

It seems likely that Doom was a prototype for Darth Vader. Part of the character's hook is wondering just what he has hidden under that mask. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 216.113.216.25 (talk • contribs) 20:02, 21 February 2003 (UTC)

George Lucas has indeed acknowledged the influence of Doom in creating Vader. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Timrollpickering (talk • contribs) 15:29, 10 January 2004 (UTC)
That certainly seems evident, but it really needs a citation -- preferably a quote from one of the countless articles, interviews and books in which Lucas is quoted. Also, don't forget to sign your posts! - Tenebrae 05:26, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 'Doctor'?

If Doctor Doom was expelled from college, where did he get his degree? -- Smerdis of Tlön 17:05, 15 Jan 2004 (UTC)

He doesn't have one. But when the second-strongest sorcerer on Earth, who also happens to command legions of robotic minions and is wearing atomic-powered armour, tells you his name is Doctor Doom, you call him doctor. :) Bryan 05:25, 16 Jan 2004 (UTC)
Most recent appearances skip the "Doctor" part (for instance, "Unthinkable" by Mark Waid). Everyone calls him, or refers to him as "Doom", except for Reed Richards, who calls him "Victor" (they knew each other in college). He was called "Doctor Doom" in the 60s because Stan Lee loved alliterations (Peter Parker, Reed Richards, Susan Storm, Matt Murdock, Bruce Banner), not because it made any sense. :) Dehumanizer 22:36, 2 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Are there any other "adaptations" of Doctor Doom? --Feitclub 03:40, Nov 5, 2004 (UTC)

I highly recommend the MF Doom albums mentioned in the article. Doom is an amazing rapper, and he has produced several incredible albums in the last few years.

Who is to say that Doom did not confer upon himself a doctorate from a Latverian university? - User:Sh@z@m

[edit] Characteristics

RE: his use of scientific and magical genius for evil, his eerie name, and his penchant for speaking in a melodramatic manner — have often been copied and parodied.

Actually, this stuff was around and being copied and parodied for years and years before Doom. Fu Manchu, Ming the Merciless, Sherlock Holmes' nemesis Moriarty ... this list goes on. As do the villains! :-) - Tenebrae 05:26, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

When has the Punisher ever encountered the Doomster?

Here is a question - what is Doctor Doom's current status ? is he alive , is he dead , is he trapped in anothe dimension ? becouse in House of M he was alive and well ... but then again , in house of m the dead gwen stacy , and other guys were resurrected...... so.......... if anyone can help me ,thank you :)

AFAIK he's in hell atm XSpaceyx 18:23, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
Last time he was seen in the normal Fantastic Four ongoing, it ended with him being in Hell for failing to live up to his deal with some demons, or slighting them, or failing them or something. However, I heard that Doom (the real thing, not yet another Doom-bot) recently killed off Squirrel Girl, but from reading the Wiki article I obviously wasn't listening too closely when my friend told me that, or he was wrong. Satan's Rubber Duck 11:54, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
Well this article isn't so updated.. 193.13.57.88 12:04, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
On the other hand, having the article updated to the current issue is going to spoil anyone looking for a little bit of background info on a character they may have never met before. Satan's Rubber Duck 17:54, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Power cosmic?

Anyone know how many times he has actually aquired the power cosmic or any other cosmic power for that matter? So far I can only remember twice, Galactus and Beyonder.

He's also taken it from the Silver Surfer. Dr Archeville 18:55, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
He's stolen power from Uatu the Watcher before, and IIRC, also Terrax at least once. --Metaphysician

[edit] Question

I seem to recall hearing Dr Doom is from Latvia. Am I just nuts?

Latveria, a fictionalized Eastern European nation based on, among others, Latvia. --Rocketgoat 06:16, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 'Machines of Doom' Article?

Would it be in Wikipedia's purview to make a page listing & describing all the 100+ gadgets Dr. Doom has used in his decades of comic life? There are pages for Captain America's shield and Thor's hamme Mjolnir (and I'm working on one for the Armors of Iron Man), so it would seem to me that there is some precedent for such an aticle. Dr Archeville 19:01, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

Well, I say go for it.

User:TheEditor367

[edit] Runaways

Dr. Doom also figures prominently in the storyline of the comic Runaways, starting in issue 4. Someone want to add this somewhere? I don't think I know enough to be qualified to do it. There are some details on the Ultron page. aubrey 04:01, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Dr. Dooms from other Fox Comics and DC Comics

An anon user moved this to trivia which I subsequently restored to the top of the article. Since the Fox and DC Comics' Dr. Dooms are extremely unlikely to develop their own pages on wikipedia (particularly the DC Comics' Dr. Doom) it seems appropriate that these characters be mentioned up front in the article for anyone who may be searching for whatever information wikipedia may have on the other Dr. Dooms. Burying it under a trivia section makes them almost not worth mentioning in the article at all, and anyone looking for information on these Dr. Dooms from rival comic publishers will undoubtedly look for them here. The original paragraph including the info on Fox Comics Dr. Doom and Marvel's Dr. Droom have been there for a long time, but I recently added the information on DC Comics' Dr. Doom after digging up my old copy of Detective Comics #158. My conjecture is that DC kept their Dr. Doom obscure so as to avoid a copyright fight with Marvel. What do others think about where this information about other Dr. Dooms should be placed?-- Cardinal Newman  05:08, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Did Dr. Doom exist before Civil War?

The publication history of the character needs to be filled out, and also a mention of doombots would be nice. I don't know enough about Dr. Doom to be much help with this. --Chris Griswold (☎☓) 22:23, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Hunh? In his info box it says his first appearance was July 1962, well before the Civil War story arc. --Dr Archeville 21:28, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Mangaverse

I think I remember he was a black woman in the mangaverse, the sister to the black panther or something like that, but I can't remember well. Anyone willing to fill? --SidiLemine 13:36, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Alias

Doctor Doom once used the third Invincible Man as an alias. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.136.11.242 (talk • contribs) 03:34, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

Can you cite this? When and where did he use this alias? --GentlemanGhost 04:18, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Stephen King references

Since Eddie Dean came from 1987, how would he know about Harry Potter? speaking of which, do we need two references to Dark Tower? they should be merged, or the inferior one removed. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.136.11.242 (talk • contribs) 04:27, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for catching these. I removed one of the Dark Tower references (it was in the wrong section anyway). Also the bit about Harry Potter and lightsabers has nothing to do with Dr. Doom, so I excised it from the article altogether. --GentlemanGhost 04:11, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Magical Power Level

The article states that Doom is next in line for the title of Sorcerer Supreme. However, other than the Unthinkable story line in which his magical powers were supplemented, Doom has never shown magical abilities that would put him ahead of the likes of Baron Mordo, Morgan Le Fey, Hellstorm, or Doctor Druid (not an exhaustive list). And even in the Unthinkable story line it is made clear that without the demon's granting him additional power that his abilities were quite limited.

The closest that I'm aware of Doom being listed as number two are in the Doctor Doom/Strange graphic novel where Doom came in second in a magical contest. However, Doom and Strange were the only notables entered in that contest.Gethe 02:07, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

This assertion does indeed come from the Doctor Doom/Strange graphic novel, entitled "Triumph and Torment" where Doom, Strange, and many other magicians in the Marvel Universe competed for the title of sorcerer supreme at the behest of the Vishanti. Doom freely admits before the contest takes place that he is not adept at some of the others present in the ways of magic, but is allowed to participate anyway. The result of the contest can roughly be interpreted as putting Doom in second place, and it is for this reason it is often said he is next in line as Sorcerer Supreme. In the events that followed in the same story, however, Dr. Strange apparently taught Doom a great deal about magical combat, enough for them to survive in Mephisto's hellish dimension. For all these reasons it is reasonable to assume that if Dr. Strange were dispatched Dr. Doom could very well be next in line for his title, or at least in the running.

[edit] Don't violate policy

Don't delete comments you don't agree with. It's against wikipedia policy. Thanks. 72.144.71.193 04:53, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Face?

I'm sure they have at some point, but has his face ever been clearly shown in 616 continuity? If so, that might be a good panel/page to track down and put on the article, his supposed disfigurement is a fairly large part of his character.

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