Talk:Doc Hammer

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[edit] Snazziest

I'd say this is the snazziest page on Wikipedia. --Hazelfo 23:11, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

WE ARE NOT ON WIKIPEDIA TO DEBATE WHICH ARTICLES ARE SNAZZY. THIS IS UNPROFESSIONAL AND UNCALLED FOR. 12.218.94.148 01:48, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
Would you give me your address if I offered to mail you a free CAPS LOCK key? I have keys in both the snazzy and un-snazzy varieties, though I'm going to go out on a limb and assume you prefer the latter. --Super j dynamite 00:34, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Age?

I'm certain his date of birth is incorrect. I lived in the same college dormitiry with him and Ben Edlund when I was 18. A birthdate of 1976 would make him seven years younger than me and 11 at the time. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 192.240.46.100 (talk • contribs).

You're right. Most likely, he's 38. But until he confirms or denies, he was born in 1976.

I think it was his Soulbot-themed MySpace page that began the confusion. For a while, it gave his age as "30" (though he has recently changed it to say "99").

That, and, his IMDB page lists his year of birth as 1976. Doesn't it cost money to add that information to IMDB?

No. Anyone can submit it.
Oh. Then. Hm. Maybe it was his Soulbot-themed Myspace page that confused everyone. Look what you did, Doc! (Someone should fix that IMDB page, too.)
I think it's safe to say that his date of birth is at least 1967, seeing as his ex-wife's birth year is listed as 1967- according to to the former profile listed at her website[1], she married Eric/Doc at age 18.

[edit] Throat Coat

um wots his "throat coat"? that should really be explained. --Coda littleking 12:54, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Throat Coat is a tea that's supposed to help sore throats and hoarseness. From what I've gathered, Doc was asking for it while he was at Comic-Con, since he left his voice in Ken Plume's hotel room. --Hazelfo 13:11, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
um thanks. but shoodnt sum1 xplain it in the article? --Coda littleking 23:30, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
Why don't you? --Hazelfo

This is a bit of trivia that reads like an in-joke. Popping up as early in the article as it does, it makes the piece seem flippant. --Pagana 20:15, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Have you read the article in its entirety? It's exceptionally flippant. Is that a problem? --Hazelfo
Um...yeah. "Diet of tears" and all that. It's not flippant, actually, just cutesy-poo. Guy deserves a real article, in my opinion. Why undercut him with chuff? --Pagana 06:37, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
Cutesy-poo? I thought it was amusing. If he deserves a "real article," make him once. God knows I've scoured the internet enough looking for facts about him. This is all I could come up with; basic information and a selection of trivia. Really, I could find no definite timeline for this guy. We don't even know his year of birth! And good luck making a real article on a website "anyone can edit!" Let it be flippant. --Hazelfo some time after the above.
i didnt tink i shud bcos i didnt av a source nd stil not even sure if it should be in the article....... --Coda littleking 14:24, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
Then take it out! Jeez. And you would mind typing legibly? --Hazelfo

well sorry for trying to see if people wanted it kept in or it could be made a proper part of the article! And sorry about the typing im used to using shorthand things in things like this. Coda littleking 22:35, 9 August 2006 (UTC) he graduated from ledyard high school in 1985 which makes him 39....

[edit] Whining

Is it up to us to decide which birth defects are 'snazzy' and which are not? I'm going to edit out any personal bias until we can verify from educational or scientific sources that Doc Hammer's birth defect is really 'snazzier' than say, Down's Syndrome.

Don't be a spoilsport.
I have a listing of birth defects considered snazzy by FDA. However, I am not going to tell you what they are. 68.164.170.20 03:49, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
Be quiet. I've just sent a message to Doc asking him if he considers his birth defect "snazzy." If he says it, we can quote him.-Diabolos 19:55, 10 August 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Vanity page?

I'm not denying that Doc Hammer should have an entry here, however it reads as if he wrote it himself, and is not up to wikipedia standards for Bio entries. It reads like a friggin myspace page. It's unproffessional and in major need of an overhaul. Elijya 05:01, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Thank you. I'm on it right now.-Diabolos 18:57, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
On the subject of the articles's unprofessionalism, you can simply take the necessary information and put it in the article (see an edit I made that was reverted because it wasn't "snazzy" enough). You can get rid of the trivia section, which keeps irking me. -Diabolos 19:49, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
It's already been fixed. What's the problem now. And the trivia section stays, thank you. Who cares if it "irks" you. --Hazelfo
Yeah, put the trivia section back. Wikipedia doesn't care whether or not it irks you. This isn't your page, Diabolos. --somesuch
Perhaps the trivia section could be merged in with the rest of the article, rather than completely deleted? --Robbie
Diabolos explained this situation to me and informed me that was what she intended to do. -71.38.183.69 22:36, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
Look at it. That's been done. We want to make a new trivia section. With actual trivia. Like, useless information. --Hazelfo
Shush you. 'Useless information' says it all. --Robbie
Wikipedia is FULL of useless information! --Hazelfo
THOSE GUQIN PLAYERS HAVE FAMILIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!--Chris Griswold 03:59, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
At first, I thought you were just a citation fiend. But now, I think I love you. --Hazelfo 07:22, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
Nevermind. You are just a citation fiend. --Hazelfo 08:10, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

I'm amazed that I'm coming to the defense of Hazelfo (who has not been playing nice lately), but there's an abundance of strong precedence for a Trivia section in a bio. In fact, it's a good device for making sure the rest of the article stays authoritative. For examples, see Michael Chabon, Matti Wuori, Józef Simmler, Johan Wanloo, Kasi Lemmons, Karen Mulder, Theodore Woodward, etc. Let Hazelfo restore the Trivia section; there's more than ample precedent for it. Just don't fill it with in-jokes and deliberate misinformation. okay?--Pagana 06:06, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Okaaaaay. And since when have I ever added deliberate misinformation! Unless you mean the Moxie bit, and that was only misleading! --Hazelfo 07:08, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Trivia Restored! ... This is not a problem, folks.

The trivia section is dead. Long live the trivia section! I've tried to keep it as condensed as possible. I still think everyone should know his cat is named Robespierre and she spits fire at all who intrude. --Hazelfo 07:23, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

A cat's name is actually pretty relevent.


... What just happened? Why was the trivia integrated again? We have no timeline for this guy. There needs to be a section of miscellaneous information so that it can be moderately organized. --Hazelfo 08:08, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Why does there need to be miscellaneous information? --Chris Griswold 09:21, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
To make it organized. Right now there is just a random collection of information without a timeline or any structure to it. We need a "miscellaneous information" section after the information about the Venture Bros. and his oil paintings. --Hazelfo 17:32, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Okay, look: I, not Hazelfo, have restored the Trivia section, because it is an incredibly common component of WP bios. (See my post above). If you want to dispute the contents of said section, fine. But removing the section wholesale is simply uncalled for. This is standard equipment for this kind of WP article, folks. It's where you put stuff that isn't specifically an achievement, but nonetheless illuminative of the character. Please do a search for the category "==Trivia==". You'll find it is employed in thousands of entries: John Haymes Newton, Ezra Idlet, Gina Holden, Naberrie family, and so on, and so on. So please, leave it be and let's focus on the content. --Pagana 14:52, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Um, I noticed on the Arcadia page that it says that his paintings were exhibited until October 20th (I think), 2005. Shouldn't it be "were" exibited rather than "is"? -71.38.183.69 16:18, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
The October show was his solo exhibition; right now his paintings are still at the Arcadia, but part of a larger group show. It's not like they were all sold in one show. We could say that they "were" exhibited at the Hygenic art gallery in New London, but they "are" at the Arcadia. --Hazelfo 17:32, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
Thank you for clearing this up for me. I just was a bit confused. -71.38.183.69 23:31, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

ALSO. I really don't think his oil painting should be a "trivia" thing. I'm reverting it back to before ChrisGriswold integrated it all. --Hazelfo 17:32, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Why do you think I integrated it? Everything that was integrated was actually worthwhile information that belonged in the article. --Chris Griswold 02:14, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
Oil painting wasn't in the trivia section. Trivia was. --Hazelfo 02:30, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

I think you're correct, especially since I've now described him as a "multidisciplinary artist," which seems to be an apt description. --Pagana 18:23, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

The current trivia section is actually a bit what I had in mind. -Diabolos 04:04, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
Then maybe you shouldn't have erased it. --Hazelfo 05:03, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
What she meant originally but didn't say it was that so much of the trivia section could be intergrated into the article or have more added to it. She probably just didn't know how to do so. -Darknightmusic 18:21, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Okay, the vegan-chocolate thing should stay. How many vegans do you know eat chocolate? And the man said it on his MySpace. The chocolate stays! Capiche? -Diabolos 23:34, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Agreed. Gosh, it's not like I said this kind of chocolate-loving hypocrisy is snazzy. --Hazelfo 01:41, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Doc Hammer and Films

I was thinking, and since we have a verified listing of films he's appeared in, should that maybe go in the non-Trivia section of the article or should it stay in the trivia section? -Diabolos 18:55, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Sure, I guess. --Hazelfo 19:01, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Pottery?

A part of me really wants to say that he is kidding, just because he's said nothing about this until now, and it's always been assumed he studied painting... Gosh. --Hazelfo 03:03, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

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